Advice: Bilstein Sports w/ H&R Race springs

[B_Peterson]

I am about to upgrade the suspension on my car from stock to Bilstein Sport shocks and H&R Race springs.

Just a couple questions:
The H&R website recommends camber plates for the rear wheels with the race springs. Is this neccessary?

The shop that I take my car to cant seem to locate the H&R race springs in their netwrok of supplyers. Does anybody know where the best place to but them online is?

My mechanic has recommended H&R Sport springs over the Race springs. What do you guys recommend. I like the idea of a stiffer ride and the lower stance of the Race springs.

[Stephen]

there arent really camber "plates" for the rear, its not a coil over strut setup back there. There are weld in camber kits if you really must have adjustability but its by no means a requirement to run the springs. Your negative camber will increase though.

[B_Peterson]

Cool. I was hoping for that reply. Are you running the race springs on your car?

[blefevre]

If you DD your car and the roads suck where you live, get the sports and save your oil pan. If not, get the race imo.

They are sold all over the place, but here is an example...
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...0&subcat_id=63

[Stephen]

Cool. I was hoping for that reply. Are you running the race springs on your car?

Nope, coils. Im a good amount lower than race, my car has early arches

If you DD your car and the roads suck where you live, get the sports and save your oil pan. If not, get the race imo.

They are sold all over the place, but here is an example...
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...0&subcat_id=63

Races arent so low that id worry about road conditions all that much. Get a skidplate if youre really concerned. Downtown seattle where i drive is pretty bad, but its doable on my coils

[reelizmpro]

They are E30 M3 application... H&R Race

[blefevre]

Races arent so low that id worry about road conditions all that much. Get a skidplate if youre really concerned. Downtown seattle where i drive is pretty bad, but its doable on my coils

Correct, of course you can get by with it, but it is easier to deal with if it is your DD and the roads suck. :)

[B_Peterson]

Thanks everyone. I do live in Auburn hills MI. The roads here are kinda bad but not as bad as Detroit. The car is my DD right now but hopefully not for too much longer. Gonna go with the Race springs and a skidplate.

[E30_(1st Musk)_]

Im on this exact setup + 15mm drop hats up front. i think its good for a daily driver (till i get my coilovers)

I Live in LA and the streets are crapp but still dont have to worry about my oil pan. so i doubt you will really need that skidplate. in my opinion

[ak-]

I Live in LA and the streets are crapp but still dont have to worry about my oil pan. so i doubt you will really need that skidplate. in my opinion

LA/Hollywood's streets can go to hell.

I unavoidably clunked something with my skidplate on every right hand turn where the busses groove the road
I caravaned there for a show and everyone behind me says it was a great flying sparks show.

[B_Peterson]

Just got my suspension installed. Rides great but im in serious need of those drop hats. Im guessing I have to take the springs and shocks off to install them?

[Danny]

Just got my suspension installed. Rides great but im in serious need of those drop hats. Im guessing I have to take the springs and shocks off to install them?

Nope. Don't have to do either.

I just disconnected the control arm from the subframe and leaned the strut tube out to where I could zip off the strut hat and puts on the new ones. Easy peasy.

[iamsam]

Nope. Don't have to do either.

I just disconnected the control arm from the subframe and leaned the strut tube out to where I could zip off the strut hat and puts on the new ones. Easy peasy.

WHY THE F did I not think of this!! gaah, Im over here, with an unbolted strut bearing, pulling down for all i am worth trying unsuccessfully to get the strut to clear the front fender so i can angle it out to get the drop hats on!! unbolt the lower control arm?? ha ha!! i am an idiot!!

Now I am DEFINITELY going to get those E90 drop hats in soon that have been sitting in my toolbox for months.

thanks Danny.

And to the OP:
I have Billy sport/H&R race setup, and an M42 (read: super low oil pan), and I have never cracked my oil pan once, and I have even done this:


So you should be just fine with your setup. I am very happy with mine, but in the future I will want coilovers...