19mm rear paired with 21mm vert front?

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  • hurttech
    Wrencher
    • Apr 2010
    • 237

    #1

    19mm rear paired with 21mm vert front?

    Would this be too much rear bar? I'm gonna be using them with vogtland springs and kyb's. Would the 14.5mm rear be a better DD set up? Really just want an OEM+ set up. Car is an 84 e.

    Thanks
    Last edited by hurttech; 11-23-2010, 11:49 AM.
  • ÜberslowETA
    Advanced Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 190

    #2
    Im also interested in this question. Im planning on going 21 from a vert in front and an IX rear but Im afraid it may not be enough in the back.

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    • evilnickwong
      Grease Monkey
      • Aug 2007
      • 302

      #3
      Alot of the feedback I've read on this very subforum seem to show that most people prefer having a stock rear bar or no rear bar at all. Too hard of a rear bar makes the rear end skittish/too stiff and breaks more unexpectedly.

      Personally, I'm going to be going 23/12 for my 318i. :P

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      • rav320uk
        E30 Fanatic
        • Jun 2004
        • 1337

        #4
        Are these coilovers you're going for??
        Is the car for track use?

        If yes, then over here alot of the guys tend to loose the rear ARB as it causes oversteer on the track.
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        • hurttech
          Wrencher
          • Apr 2010
          • 237

          #5
          Originally posted by rav320uk
          Are these coilovers you're going for??
          Is the car for track use?

          If yes, then over here alot of the guys tend to loose the rear ARB as it causes oversteer on the track.
          Well that's my question. I know guys lose the bar when they are running stiff springs/coilovers, but I'm gonna be on Vogtland springs which arent the stiffest out there.

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          • CorvallisBMW
            Long Schlong Longhammer
            • Feb 2005
            • 13039

            #6
            Yes, I think the 19mm rear would be overkill

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            • george graves
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Oct 2003
              • 19986

              #7
              How much does engine weight up front affect the choice in bars? Would your advice change from a m42 car to a m30 car?
              Originally posted by Matt-B
              hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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              • jlevie
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 13530

                #8
                The correct sway bars are driven by the choice of springs. 22/19mm bars are a good match for springs whose rates are around that of H&R Race springs. Go stiffer or softer and you'll need different sways for handling balance.
                The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                • hurttech
                  Wrencher
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 237

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jlevie
                  The correct sway bars are driven by the choice of springs. 22/19mm bars are a good match for springs whose rates are around that of H&R Race springs. Go stiffer or softer and you'll need different sways for handling balance.
                  So if i were to run vogtlands, my best bet would be 21/14.5 bars?

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                  • gearheadE30
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 3734

                    #10
                    ^^ not necessarily, but they will certainly help. Some of ARB choice comes with your driving style, because they have a very big impact on the balance of the car. I have relatively soft GC coilovers on my car now, and I'm running a 21mm front and 14.5 rear. The balance is good, but I'd like to go stiffer on the front. IMHO, stiffer than a 14.5 in the rear just cuts down on rear traction too much, unless wherever you run doesn't have any bumps at all, hah. Likely what I will eventually di is weld M3 tabs onto the front strut housings to get the extra stiffness I want.

                    Project M42 Turbo

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                    • hurttech
                      Wrencher
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 237

                      #11
                      What about a 16mm rear bar? Didn't really know these existed untill a couple days ago.

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                      • robrez
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3376

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hurttech
                        What about a 16mm rear bar? Didn't really know these existed untill a couple days ago.
                        I like the idea of running a 16mm rear sway bar if you're running fairly soft aftermarket spings. I just picked up 16mm Dinan rear for my vert. I'm also switching to m3 style ASB mounts for my 21mm front bar. I have Dinan springs.
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                        • shiboujin
                          R3VLimited
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 2791

                          #13
                          Real men run no real bar and 1000#+ rear springs.

                          Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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                          • gearheadE30
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 3734

                            #14
                            Originally posted by shiboujin
                            Real men run no real bar and 1000#+ rear springs.
                            Real men can spell.

                            Project M42 Turbo

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                            • shiboujin
                              R3VLimited
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 2791

                              #15
                              HA, you must have missed the last man meating.

                              Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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