Power steering delete

[Jaxx_]

Yep. Remove the belt at the least, and more components if you want to clean up the bay and get rid of extra weight. Drain all of the fluid in the rack, and plug it, bolt it, loop it, or just leave it open.

better to close it up otherwise trash and dirt can get into the rack. I'd hate to have to replace it just because you didn't take a few minutes to seal it up, even poorly. I used some tubing over the factory banjo bolts.

[DatUtahGuy]

well thanks gentleman, I used my day off today to tackle it.

I just put back the banjo bolts with nothing on them, I got a "fancy" delete plate on the way, I won't drive it much until I get that thing on.

PS: anybody that can't turn the steering wheel on these cars without PS needs to hit the gym, or stroke it more, it's not bad at all, even from a standstill.
then again, I've moved a fully loaded 18wheeler around a parking lot without power steering, THAT was fun :)

[Simon S]

How you guys draining the rack?

Just remove lines and run the wheel lock-to-lock once or twice - then after whatever spills out - install plate?

[Jaxx_]

How you guys draining the rack?

Just remove lines and run the wheel lock-to-lock once or twice - then after whatever spills out - install plate?

I did it a few times. just try to get it all out by going lock to lock fast. sometimes turning the front wheels by hand when the car is jacked up is easier/faster.

[silence]

You probably shouldn't run the rack with no delete/bolts in it. You can and will get debris inside.
if your interested in a powersteering delete, theres a lot of good info in my FS thread.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=130389

[Jaxx_]

he is right about not getting debris inside the rack, but either replacing the banjo bolts with regular bolts or covering the banjo bolt holes are all that is necessary once you've drained the rack.

[Sagaris]

Im tempted to delete mine but I daily drive my car. I have owned cars with manual steering before but I dont remember what it felt like.

[Jaxx_]

Im tempted to delete mine but I daily drive my car. I have owned cars with manual steering before but I dont remember what it felt like.

I drive the e30 on the street and it's not horrible... just have to be moving a little and it's not that bad. I'm not a big dude (last time i curled free weights I was doing 25lb reps) and I don't have any real issues driving the car. It is annoying if you're constantly going from lock to lock, like turning around small areas, but other that that, not bad. Shit, even my 60 year old mom drives the car and autocrosses it.

My wheel is a little smaller than the factory wheel, too.

[Sagaris]

I drive the e30 on the street and it's not horrible... just have to be moving a little and it's not that bad. I'm not a big dude (last time i curled free weights I was doing 25lb reps) and I don't have any real issues driving the car. It is annoying if you're constantly going from lock to lock, like turning around small areas, but other that that, not bad. Shit, even my 60 year old mom drives the car and autocrosses it.

My wheel is a little smaller than the factory wheel, too.

Im mainly concerned with quick transitions such as counter-steering to correct a slide. I will just have to remove the belt and give it a shot the next time I drive I guess.

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Im mainly concerned with quick transitions such as counter-steering to correct a slide. I will just have to remove the belt and give it a shot the next time I drive I guess.

It's not the same if you just remove the belt. Reason being, if you're only removing the belt, you still have fluid in the rack, pump and the hoses. Every time you turn the wheel, you're pushing fluid through the system which creates more resistance. You need to drain the system completely to get a true representation of how having no power steering feels.

[Jaxx_]

Im mainly concerned with quick transitions such as counter-steering to correct a slide. I will just have to remove the belt and give it a shot the next time I drive I guess.

e30s have enough caster that it's not an issue. don't let that scare you.

[willworkfore30s]

I'm glad this thread popped up. I am having power steering issues but haven't figured it out yet. I assumed the issue was low fluid caused by a leak and was gonna put some fluid in it to see if and where it leaked. As of right now there is a decent amount of resistance, so I am guessing there is still fluid in the rack and it is just below the leak. After reading all these post I think I'll give draining the rack a shot and see how it feels. I can always put it back later if I don't like it.

[Jaxx_]

I'm glad this thread popped up. I am having power steering issues but haven't figured it out yet. I assumed the issue was low fluid caused by a leak and was gonna put some fluid in it to see if and where it leaked. As of right now there is a decent amount of resistance, so I am guessing there is still fluid in the rack and it is just below the leak. After reading all these post I think I'll give draining the rack a shot and see how it feels. I can always put it back later if I don't like it.

pump running dry will cause it to fail

[willworkfore30s]

Well I haven't driven this car but once since I got it but I am sure the previous owner ran it dry for a while so I guess its good I can do without it. I had another pump that I am sure was good but traded it for an A/C braket and new 318is motor mounts.