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  • nickmp0wer
    Banned
    • Jul 2004
    • 1427

    #1

    What are you guys with no power steering doing

    I want to get something that just screws into the rack and has a little nipple for a hose to attach to and run that hose to the little PS tank but i dont think i can find a part like that. any other ideas?
  • Digitalwave
    is a poseur
    • Oct 2003
    • 6276

    #2
    If you don't want powersteering you should buy a euro non-ps rack.

    RISING EDGE

    Let's drive fast and have fun.

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    • nickmp0wer
      Banned
      • Jul 2004
      • 1427

      #3
      but thats a longer ratio, and cost money. I'd like to upgrade to a m3 or z3 rack sometime, but not now

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      • Digitalwave
        is a poseur
        • Oct 2003
        • 6276

        #4
        What's the ratio? Pretty sure is that same 4.0 lock-to-lock.

        RISING EDGE

        Let's drive fast and have fun.

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        • nickmp0wer
          Banned
          • Jul 2004
          • 1427

          #5
          i think it might be 4.5. Not much of a difference, but i'd still have to find one and buy it. Maybe i should just get some bolts that are the right size and plug it up with some ATF in there?

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          • AndrewBird
            The Mad Scientist
            • Oct 2003
            • 11892

            #6
            Originally posted by nickmp0wer
            i think it might be 4.5. Not much of a difference, but i'd still have to find one and buy it. Maybe i should just get some bolts that are the right size and plug it up with some ATF in there?
            I think there are some poeple that do that and have had no problems. Try searching. There should be something around.

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            • nickmp0wer
              Banned
              • Jul 2004
              • 1427

              #7
              what i just did was take the hose that goes from the tank to the pump and ran it from the tank to the rack so now there are 2 hoses going from the tank to the rack

              BTW should the steering colum that goes from inside the firewall to the u-jonts be able to move around a little? it also makes kind of poping noise when i move it round

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              • Old'n'Slow
                E30 Addict
                • Nov 2003
                • 436

                #8
                I've done it both ways and I'm here to tell you that running a power rack with "no power" isn't remotely close to how good real manual steering feels in these cars.

                First, the little guibo in the connector between the rack and the column is very soft in the power rack. It's very firm in the manual because it has to withstand a lot more torque. This offers a more direct connection and better feel. As a matter of fact, I'd have to say that my e30 with the euro manual rack that I got from my local dealer feels tighter and much better "on center" than the steering in my wife's Z3. Surprising since the e30 manual rack is a 21.45:1 ratio and the Z3 is 16.9:1!

                Second, you have such a heightened sense of exactly where the limits of the front tires are that you can really drive it at the edge without any nasty surprises.

                Steering effort is not really a big deal unless you are completely stopped and are trying to turn the wheel.

                It requires no maintenance and will never leak anything on my driveway. :D

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                • Addissimo
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1820

                  #9
                  I did a z3 conversion and recommend it greatly. I'm not running anything through it, I just have both banjo fittings installed on the rack, with a tube running from one fitting to the other. Pretty simple, works well.

                  -Addis

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                  • Borat
                    E30 Addict
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 494

                    #10
                    I thought the manual rack was 4.1 lock to lock. Anyway, if thats the case the difference is so small its not worth worrying about. Steering effort aint too bad at all, if anything I think they are too light at speed.

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                    • NC325iC
                      R3V OG
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 6565

                      #11
                      is there any way to like make the steering wheel harder to turn but keep power steering, maybe with like a smaller pulley or less fluid flow or something? anyone know?
                      Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                      Originally posted by TimKninja
                      Im more afraid of this thread turning into one of those classic R3v moments, where Pizza gets delivered.

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                      • nickmp0wer
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1427

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Addissimo
                        I did a z3 conversion and recommend it greatly. I'm not running anything through it, I just have both banjo fittings installed on the rack, with a tube running from one fitting to the other. Pretty simple, works well.

                        -Addis
                        so you have a z3 rack, and no power steering?



                        and my current rack for some reason leaks even though it was rebuilt like 10000 miles ago. I also has a lot of slop.

                        I would probably like to do a no PS e36 or z3 conversion, but maybe the manual rack could work

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                        • Schnell 318
                          E30 Addict
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 567

                          #13
                          is the euro rack a straight swap rack for rack or is there more envolved?

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                          • nickmp0wer
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 1427

                            #14
                            i just faxed a form to a junk yard, and hopfully no one has bought it since monday.

                            I found a 80k mile z3 rack with a bent tierod for $100 shipped

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