IE front strut bar rubs M20 on AKG poly motor mounts

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  • ROLLingKING
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Apr 2011
    • 1169

    #1

    IE front strut bar rubs M20 on AKG poly motor mounts

    i have an 87 325is and I just installed a IE strut bar last night. Right now it rubs the intake manifold. It causes LOTS of vibrations and cant stay this way

    Anyone run aftermarket motor mounts on their M20 and have touching issues with their Ireland Engineering front strut bar. Specifically the red AKG motor mounts.

    Thanks. im going to go check if something obvious could be wrong
    m20 is plenty. im simply a drifter.
    build thread -- http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=206510
  • ROLLingKING
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Apr 2011
    • 1169

    #2
    fuck it. I got the hammer out and dentd the bottom. problem solved
    m20 is plenty. im simply a drifter.
    build thread -- http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=206510

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    • bastianshaw
      R3VLimited
      • Jan 2007
      • 2210

      #3
      Originally posted by ROLLingKING
      fuck it. I got the hammer out and dentd the bottom. problem solved

      I like your moves

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      • MR 325
        Moderator
        • Oct 2003
        • 37825

        #4
        Never heard of that happening, must be some tall mounts!
        BimmerHeads
        Classic BMW Specialists
        Santa Clarita, CA

        www.BimmerHeads.com

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        • ROLLingKING
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Apr 2011
          • 1169

          #5
          Originally posted by MR 325
          Never heard of that happening, must be some tall mounts!
          someone said on my build thread that the AKG motor mounts looked like E21 mounts. Ive never heard such a thing until my front strut touched. maybe they are tall. either way it pissed me off so out came the hammer.
          I was like not one f'ing thing can be added without a problem, WHACK!

          Now im happy. but fyi, AKG motor mounts are taller! they work great, just tall
          m20 is plenty. im simply a drifter.
          build thread -- http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=206510

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          • MR 325
            Moderator
            • Oct 2003
            • 37825

            #6
            I would have done the same thing. :)
            BimmerHeads
            Classic BMW Specialists
            Santa Clarita, CA

            www.BimmerHeads.com

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            • jlevie
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 13530

              #7
              Taller than normal motor mounts cause the engine/trans to cant up slightly, which results in a slight misalignment of the drive shaft (and interference with the strut bar). I'd have replaced those motor mounts with ones of the correct height.
              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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              • markseven
                R3V Elite
                • Sep 2006
                • 5327

                #8
                Along with the geometry issues pointed out by jlevie, you are raising the center of gravity.
                I Timothy 2:1-2

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                • Bearmw
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1323

                  #9
                  So what then is the height of the stock mounts in mm? Matter of fact has anyone compiled a list of various motor mounts for E30, E12, etc and their associated dimensions and what they can fit. That would be some useful info for many of us....hmmm
                  Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. -Mark Twain

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                  • ROLLingKING
                    E30 Enthusiast
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1169

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bearmw
                    So what then is the height of the stock mounts in mm? Matter of fact has anyone compiled a list of various motor mounts for E30, E12, etc and their associated dimensions and what they can fit. That would be some useful info for many of us....hmmm
                    Idk what u guys are talking about with stress on the driveshaft from not being aligned. Your talking millimeters of a difference and trying to magnify it into more of a problem than it is. Im pretty sure AKG knows what their mounts do. They are very knowledgable. I just got the motor mounts so theyre not goin anywhere.lol and many many ppl use them.
                    Please dont respond with what angle the motor should be at and other numbers that are only important to u.haha
                    Look at the AKG website.
                    Im positive that my car is happy with poly motor mounts, e21 tranny mounts and the strut bar. Especially since my motor and tranny mounts were broken, everythings straight and smooth now

                    Bearmw is right tho. We should get a list of dimensions goin for mounts. Now im curious.
                    Its like when my ST 22mm front sway bar rubbed my race skids cross brace. Some things just wont fit. There someone actually confirmed they had a similar fitment issue.

                    Has anyone actually run into strut bar issues with AKG mounts tho?
                    m20 is plenty. im simply a drifter.
                    build thread -- http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=206510

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                    • Robert
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3770

                      #11
                      I just installed some new STOCK motor mounts , and it now touches the motor.

                      I don't feel any vibrations yet.

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                      • ROLLingKING
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1169

                        #12
                        AHA!

                        so its not my mounts.lol
                        if its touching u will feel the vibrations, at least u should. i felt/heard it as soon as i started the car. U dont want it touching tho. I had a bootleg strut bar on for a sec and it was touching my manifold. it put a little indentation on the manifold in just a few days. Ill post some pics in the morning

                        Thanks for posting tho. I was really starting to question the mounts for a sec
                        m20 is plenty. im simply a drifter.
                        build thread -- http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=206510

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                        • Thizzelle
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 4422

                          #13
                          you weakened the strut bar
                          "I wanna see da boat movie"
                          "I got a tree on my house"

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                          • Jaxx_
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1880

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Thizzelle
                            you weakened the strut bar
                            yeah, so significant that it will affect how hard you're able to corner. Please enlighten us, does this mean the strut bar will compress easier? Just to make sure, this is what you're saying, right?
                            '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
                            NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
                            Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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                            • Robert
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 3770

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                              AHA!

                              so its not my mounts.lol
                              if its touching u will feel the vibrations, at least u should. i felt/heard it as soon as i started the car. U dont want it touching tho. I had a bootleg strut bar on for a sec and it was touching my manifold. it put a little indentation on the manifold in just a few days. Ill post some pics in the morning

                              Thanks for posting tho. I was really starting to question the mounts for a sec
                              I really don't feel any vibrations whats so ever. 40-45 i have this weird vibration, but it was happening before the bar was even installed. I was thinking about smashing the bar a tad , but not worth it to me, it doesn't really matter if the bars touching a little bit.

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