Anyone make their own bushings?

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  • swolfe
    Noobie
    • Jul 2012
    • 32

    #1

    Anyone make their own bushings?

    - Bushings are expensive
    - The geometry seems simple enough
    - Plastic (Delrin/UHMWPE/PU) is super easy to turn

    Has anyone done this? Good idea? Bad idea? Material? Dimensions?
  • TobyB
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2011
    • 5163

    #2
    Yup.
    UHMW for the rear subframe and diff, and acetal for the trailing arms.

    I chickened out with the fronts, since the material wasn't that much
    less than a set of purpose- made ones AND the unit loading has
    the potential to be quite a bit higher.

    No problems, other than you'd do well to use bits ground for stringy
    materials. I polished up some that were intended for aluminum, and they
    left a nice surface finish. Dealing with the 'chip' is a pain, tho.

    It was fun- there's quite a bit of freedom to mess with geometry...

    t
    now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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    • AndrewBird
      The Mad Scientist
      • Oct 2003
      • 11892

      #3
      FYI, you will want the sharpest cutter you can get. Tool steel works very well or any kind of insert made for aluminum. Carbide will not work well as it can not be sharpened to a fine enough edge. It will cut, but it will leave a much rougher finish, and if not fed into the material just right, will melt the plastic rather then cut it.

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      • Robotin
        R3V Elite
        • Jun 2011
        • 4471

        #4
        my whole thing is most enthusiast arent gonna makethings like that better than the certified technicians that make 1000's of those bushings a day.

        also why i dont agree with heating or cutting springs...
        1989 325i SETA stroker [delphin] R3V'd 8/31/2011
        1989 325ix [zinnoberrot] $OLD
        1970 2002 [Nevada]

        Originally posted by Herr Faust Schinken
        guy must have slid into something that doesn't look like a car vs car hit
        Originally posted by ak-
        Must of slid into Rob

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        • TobyB
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2011
          • 5163

          #5
          Carbide will not work well as it can not be sharpened to a fine enough edge.
          I had no problem... it's not the edge so much as the angle. The aluminum bits I had
          (god I miss Boeing Surplus) were carbide, and I just did a gentle job on the
          toolgrinding wheel I use for carbides... Not mirror smooth, but they cut fine.

          And no, if you don't have a lathe, just buy them.

          If you have a lathe and your time is free, you can make about 10 for each pair you buy.

          Did I mention it was mostly for fun, and a bit for moving things like the subframe
          and diff carrier around?

          t
          now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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          • AndrewBird
            The Mad Scientist
            • Oct 2003
            • 11892

            #6
            Originally posted by TobyB
            I had no problem... it's not the edge so much as the angle. The aluminum bits I had
            (god I miss Boeing Surplus) were carbide, and I just did a gentle job on the
            toolgrinding wheel I use for carbides... Not mirror smooth, but they cut fine.
            It's not that they won't work, it's that they won't work as well as other materials. There are a lot of factors that go into how a material will cut, and with plastic, having the sharpest edge possible is one factor in creating the best surface finish. Really, you could cut plastic with a spork, but for obvious reasons you wouldn't. Same goes for using carbide. But if it is what you have, then go for it.

            And as far as enthusiasts not making them as well as "technicians" (as it was put), this isn't rocket science. As long as you are +/-.010 on your diameter, you can't go wrong. It's a bushing, not some complicated device that took hours of design work. The only real engineering was in the material used, but once you go to something harder like UHMW or polyurethane, it's kind of a moot point.

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            • TStroop
              Advanced Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 188

              #7
              When I made my front bushings "eyeball" I did it twice beings on new control arms the powdercoat/paint is very thick and tends to wear easy if there is any play, I would recomend removing that if your going to machine your own

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