Better turn-in for E30

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  • alexbaby88
    Wrencher
    • Feb 2005
    • 219

    #1

    Better turn-in for E30

    For street use, what is the best way to get better sharper turn in for an E30?

    Thanks
  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    toe out helps, but too much and you'll be scared at high speeds. I also noticed a difference when I switched to offset control arm bushings (E30 M3 offset).
    Build thread

    Bimmerlabs

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    • erik325i
      No R3VLimiter
      • Jan 2005
      • 3567

      #3
      Originally posted by nando
      toe out helps, but too much and you'll be scared at high speeds. I also noticed a difference when I switched to offset control arm bushings (E30 M3 offset).
      I thought offset bushings hurt turn-in... The added caster is better for high speed stability, butnot good for sharp turn-in.
      I may be wrong though. I dunno

      -Erik

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      • PeaveyBassist
        No R3VLimiter
        • Sep 2004
        • 3511

        #4
        Originally posted by erik325i
        I thought offset bushings hurt turn-in... The added caster is better for high speed stability, butnot good for sharp turn-in.

        -Erik
        Yep. Correct.

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        • nando
          Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 34827

          #5
          could be, it was a long time ago that I switched. I just know they made the steering feel a lot better..
          Build thread

          Bimmerlabs

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          • AdamF 88iS
            R3VLimited
            • Oct 2003
            • 2051

            #6
            Offset bushings installed correctly hurt turn in but add high speed stability.

            Offset bushings installed backwards help turn in; yea, you can do that.
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            • alexbaby88
              Wrencher
              • Feb 2005
              • 219

              #7
              what about camber plates at the front to add a bit of negative camber?

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              • Charlie
                kid tested, administrator approved
                • Oct 2003
                • 6686

                #8
                Camber.

                Best and easiest way to do it. You can achieve some extra negative without doing too much extra tire wear by going with the offset "crash" mounts for the strut top, or for less money just get a set of fixed -1 degree plates.

                -Charlie
                Last edited by Charlie; 12-14-2005, 07:14 AM.
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                • alexbaby88
                  Wrencher
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 219

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Charlie
                  Camber.

                  Best and easiest way to do it. You can achieve some extra negative without doing too much extra tire wear by going with the offset "crash" mounts for the strut top, or for less money just get a set of fixed -1 degree plates.

                  -Charlie

                  Could someone point to a good online resource to purchase one of these camber plates for a decent price?

                  Thanks

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                  • e30 gangsta
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 3877

                    #10
                    Originally posted by alexbaby88
                    Could someone point to a good online resource to purchase one of these camber plates for a decent price?

                    Thanks

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                    • asubimmer
                      R3V OG
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 6482

                      #11
                      how about some Bav Auto springs ;)
                      ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                      • e30 gangsta
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 3877

                        #12
                        Originally posted by asubimmer
                        how about some Bav Auto springs ;)
                        garbage. And im honstely thinking about installing those cabs backwards. Anyone going against it?

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                        • asubimmer
                          R3V OG
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 6482

                          #13
                          they are actually really nice springs...have you ever had them? They are not harsh, handle well, and give a REALLY nice drop.
                          ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                          • e30 gangsta
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 3877

                            #14
                            Originally posted by asubimmer
                            they are actually really nice springs...have you ever had them? They are not harsh, handle well, and give a REALLY nice drop.
                            i have ie stage 3. Anyone go against installing the bushings backwards?

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                            • ColdAccord
                              R3V Elite
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 5926

                              #15
                              Originally posted by asubimmer
                              they are actually really nice springs...have you ever had them? They are not harsh, handle well, and give a REALLY nice drop.
                              they;re too soft and sag like a bitch.
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