Need to differ the ride after a s52 swap

[matthugie]

Same principle applies to a street car.

Why did bmw add 38 lbs of sound insulation to the 6 cylinder e30 trunk

Answer; weight balance.

I removed it and weighted it on a scale; 38 lbs of stuff in the trunk

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Are you saying that all street cars should be corner balanced? Do they need to be adjusted based on the commute, if there are more turns in one direction than the other?

[LJ851]

Are you saying that all street cars should be corner balanced? Do they need to be adjusted based on the commute, if there are more turns in one direction than the other?

All cars should be corner balanced ideally. It really makes a difference in handling. You are potentially leaving a lot of grip on the table without it.

[agent]

Are you saying that all street cars should be corner balanced? Do they need to be adjusted based on the commute, if there are more turns in one direction than the other?

I think that's only if you take a different route on the return trip, since if you go home the same way you came it becomes a moot point.

[matthugie]

All cars should be corner balanced ideally. It really makes a difference in handling. You are potentially leaving a lot of grip on the table without it.

I understand that, my point is that for a street only car it doesn't really matter if you're leaving grip on the table. 99.9% of the time the car is being driven well below 80% of the car's potential. Granted you don't want a super twitchy setup that's going to put people in a ditch every time they try to push their car a bit, but there's a lot of room there where the car will be perfectly fine to drive.

[Wanganstyle]

I understand that, my point is that for a street only car it doesn't really matter if you're leaving grip on the table. 99.9% of the time the car is being driven well below 80% of the car's potential. Granted you don't want a super twitchy setup that's going to put people in a ditch every time they try to push their car a bit, but there's a lot of room there where the car will be perfectly fine to drive.

Street cars need balanced handling more than race cars. Balance is not lap time; bmw balances every single vehicle sold.

If you loose control at the track you go into the sand/wall/grass and people laugh at you.

If you loose control on the street you might have just killed a family of kids going to soccer practice.

Which is a bigger risk?

Nut behind wheel on track - death to self?

Or

Killing a minivan of kids going to soccer practice because r3vtard swap imbalanced spin out??


R3vtard procedure:

Buy crap e30

Don't take care of nice m20 engine
Kill m20
Swap in junkyard m50
Handles Like crap.
Slam it to look ILL
Hella frush for cool illest point

Drive in rain hit puddle spin out crash into minivan headed to soccer practice kill some children and parents.

[mr2peak]

Same principle applies to a street car.

Why did bmw add 38 lbs of sound insulation to the 6 cylinder e30 trunk

Answer; weight balance.

I removed it and weighted it on a scale; 38 lbs of stuff in the trunk

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Sorry, but I'm going to say that the sound deadening is for sound deadening, otherwise they would have just used a different material..

[Dakotademon7]

Street cars need balanced handling more than race cars. Balance is not lap time; bmw balances every single vehicle sold.

If you loose control at the track you go into the sand/wall/grass and people laugh at you.

If you loose control on the street you might have just killed a family of kids going to soccer practice.

Which is a bigger risk?

Nut behind wheel on track - death to self?

Or

Killing a minivan of kids going to soccer practice because r3vtard swap imbalanced spin out??


R3vtard procedure:

Buy crap e30

Don't take care of nice m20 engine
Kill m20
Swap in junkyard m50
Handles Like crap.
Slam it to look ILL
Hella frush for cool illest point

Drive in rain hit puddle spin out crash into minivan headed to soccer practice kill some children and parents.

Kinda off the deep end there. Did you forget to take your meds ?lol.

[matthugie]

Street cars need balanced handling more than race cars. Balance is not lap time; bmw balances every single vehicle sold.

If you loose control at the track you go into the sand/wall/grass and people laugh at you.

If you loose control on the street you might have just killed a family of kids going to soccer practice.

Which is a bigger risk?

Nut behind wheel on track - death to self?

Or

Killing a minivan of kids going to soccer practice because r3vtard swap imbalanced spin out??


R3vtard procedure:

Buy crap e30

Don't take care of nice m20 engine
Kill m20
Swap in junkyard m50
Handles Like crap.
Slam it to look ILL
Hella frush for cool illest point

Drive in rain hit puddle spin out crash into minivan headed to soccer practice kill some children and parents.

So every lowered but not corner balanced car is an imminent threat for every other car on the road and will result in fiery death for everyone. Got it.

[LJ851]

Sorry, but I'm going to say that the sound deadening is for sound deadening, otherwise they would have just used a different material..

318is with a lighter engine does not have the heavy sound deadening at all. Coincidence ?

[Wanganstyle]

Sorry, but I'm going to say that the sound deadening is for sound deadening, otherwise they would have just used a different material..

Out of prior owned 40+cars.....

Only my e30 had 30+ lbs of tar in the trunk under the mat..

My e36m has perhaps 3 lbs of tar? You are welcome to scrape it all off and weigh it; I actually weighed the crap out of the e30 in a garbage bag as it was so heavy I really was curious

So every lowered but not corner balanced car is an imminent threat for every other car on the road and will result in fiery death for everyone. Got it.

The r3vtard behind the wheel is the real danger for society

[Bearmw]

It's pretty well documented why BMW put in the heavy trunk tar as well as why they put the battery back there. BMW engineers really worked hard at making the E30 a good handling car so why not apply their principles to our modifications?

[nando]

318is with a lighter engine does not have the heavy sound deadening at all. Coincidence ?

neither does a '91 ix that's 400lbs heavier than the 318is. what's your point? ;)

while I agree in principle on getting a car corner balanced, we're talking about a street car. Jesus Christ. maybe get some H&R race and bilsteins and call it a day. next it won't be good enough unless he has some Motons or something with remote resiviors and electronically controlled damper settings with datalogging?

[Wanganstyle]

neither does a '91 ix that's 400lbs heavier than the 318is. what's your point? ;)

while I agree in principle on getting a car corner balanced, we're talking about a street car. Jesus Christ. maybe get some H&R race and bilsteins and call it a day. next it won't be good enough unless he has some Motons or something with remote resiviors and electronically controlled damper settings with datalogging?

Honestly just giving the stance crowd a hard time for amusement.

Hai r3v I did a swap and now I'm too hella flush in the front and not hella flush enough in the rear what should I do now cut springs?



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[matthugie]

Honestly just giving the stance crowd a hard time for amusement.

Hai r3v I did a swap and now I'm too hella flush in the front and not hella flush enough in the rear what should I do now cut springs?

How was any of this thread related to the stance crowd? At no point were any of those things mentioned in this thread by anyone other than you. OP asked about stiffer shocks and maybe springs, and all the responses were for H&R, billie sports or Koni's, or a quality coilover setup (GC or KW) if it was going to be a track car. If you want to troll the stance guys there is a stance thread.

[ForcedFirebird]

Wang cracks me up.

OP, you have stock touring (blown?) shocks and sport springs. Put HD's in to match and the ride will change dramatically. The H&R sport + HD "or" H&R race + Sport makes good combinations