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  • Panici
    Moderator
    • Dec 2009
    • 2311

    #1

    Comfortable lowering setup

    I need shocks to pass safety inspection here, so looking into upgrades while I'm at it.


    I'm DDing my E30 and want to improve handling, without ruining the comfort/turning the car into a track weapon.


    Suggestions for spring/shock setups?
    (I'd love to do coilovers, but don't think they're in the budget right now)

    '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

    '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i
  • SkiFree
    R3VLimited
    • Jun 2011
    • 2766

    #2
    Eibach Pro Kit
    or
    H&R Race
    or
    IE Stage 3

    Bilstein's or Koni's and possibly drop hats.

    ..................and away you go.

    You do not need coilovers unless you're corner balancing and/or tracking the car. Lowering the car will inherently stiffen the car unless you like bottoming out.
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    • SterlingMetE30
      Wrencher
      • Mar 2014
      • 229

      #3
      Originally posted by SkiFree
      Eibach Pro Kit
      or
      H&R Race
      or
      IE Stage 3

      Bilstein's or Koni's and possibly drop hats.

      ..................and away you go.

      You do not need coilovers unless you're corner balancing and/or tracking the car. Lowering the car will inherently stiffen the car unless you like bottoming out.
      Hr race and bilstein's is a nice combo. It was an improvement from my racelands which I bought the car with. But definitely noticeable from stock. But not terrible.

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      • Panici
        Moderator
        • Dec 2009
        • 2311

        #4
        You guys would use H&R Race rather then Sport?

        '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

        '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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        • Reichart12
          R3VLimited
          • Aug 2012
          • 2147

          #5
          I daily hr race and billy sports. It doesn't seem too rough to me but big bumps or potholes I always try to avoid. I chose race over sport springs because it gave slightly more drop and to me I didn't think the extra stiffness would be noticeable

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          • Ether-D
            R3VLimited
            • Sep 2011
            • 2838

            #6
            I always say this in these threads and always get flamed, but Bavauto springs and Billie sports. I love them on my DD.
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            • SmokeE30
              E30 Mastermind
              • Jun 2009
              • 1730

              #7
              comfy driving is more about shocks than what springs you chose, i like the way a stiffer spring rides when the car is lower because i dont want it getting much closer to the pavement but softer springs arnt bad either, a set of new OE springs would probably feel worlds better than most old e30 springs out there anymore. just have a decent set of shocks to go with whatever springs you get. id get a set of koni SA if you want to have some ability to adjust how it rides.
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              • ELVA164
                R3V Elite
                • Dec 2011
                • 4861

                #8
                I will once again strongly recommend the setup I have for a DD; E30 M3 springs and Koni Sport Adjustable dampers. Lowers the car a little but not too much, and the adjustable dampers allow you to stiffen the ride enough to make the handling sporty but compliant enough to keep long drives comfortable.
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                • Panici
                  Moderator
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 2311

                  #9
                  Looks like I'm going to go with the Bilstein Sports shocks.

                  Have a few questions about springs.

                  Springs (Stock iS springs: 118F/265R)
                  • H&R Sports [50406] (180F/380R)
                    • Too soft?
                    • I was reading how they have bottoming out issues because they are so soft? Is this normally the case?
                  • H&R Race (315F/570R)
                    • Some of the harshness comes from too little shock travel.
                    • Anyone running these with some thick spring pads to get the shocks back into their sweet spot? Does it help?

                  '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

                  '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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                  • agent
                    Vice Grand Pubaa
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 7960

                    #10
                    If you want a comfortable DD setup that still handles well, you want H&R Sports and Koni SAs.

                    If you want better cornering for AutoX / track days / mountain road carving at the sacrifice of some ride comfort and/or just to be lower, go with H&R Race and Bilstein Sports.

                    FACT: 98.7% of the guys who recommend the latter setup for a DD are under the age of 25.
                    Originally posted by kronus
                    would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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                    • Panici
                      Moderator
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2311

                      #11
                      Originally posted by agent
                      If you want a comfortable DD setup that still handles well, you want H&R Sports and Koni SAs.
                      Why Koni SAs over the Bilstien Sports?

                      From a quick google, it looks like Koni SAs are harder to get ahold of?

                      '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

                      '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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                      • djmossm42
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 687

                        #12
                        Im currently running H&R Sports with Billy Sports on a 318 vert overall the ride is great. I would like the rear a little stiffer but it's not bad and it's probably because of the extra weight of the vert.

                        on a scale of 1 - 5, 5 being the hardest I say the comfort level is 3.5

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                        • agent
                          Vice Grand Pubaa
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 7960

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Panici
                          Why Koni SAs over the Bilstien Sports?

                          From a quick google, it looks like Koni SAs are harder to get ahold of?
                          Because the Konis are adjustable, and because most everyone who's owned both will tell you they have better ride quality than the Bilsteins.
                          Originally posted by kronus
                          would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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                          • blunttech
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                            • Jul 2004
                            • 12850

                            #14
                            another cheap option thats nice is get a set of used e30m3 springs for 100-150 and get a set of bilstein touring. drop the car an inch and get a nice ride. Good for a daily and tourings are cheap.. Itll feel like a stock e30m3 ridewise
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                            • M-technik-3
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                              • Oct 2003
                              • 18946

                              #15
                              E30 M3 or Voigtlands or KW's. They all offer about 30 MM drop and rates are comfortable for the street. Eibach are lower and just slightly stiffer than stock, they are a good riding comfort spring
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