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  • BLACKCHARM88
    E30 Addict
    • Jun 2014
    • 563

    #1

    Discuss, power steering or no power steering

    How many r3v members out there are running either type? I myself have removed the whole power steering setup and put in the aluminum blacking plate for the actual rack and honestly it isn't hard to steer at all without that junk.
  • Kevinl
    E30 Modder
    • Oct 2012
    • 897

    #2
    Getting to do a rack swap and contemplating removing it i had a 85 subaru that had no ps and it wasnt bad
    1989 BMW 325is Lachsilber metallic 5 speed
    2007 BMW 335i KARMESINROT 6 Speed manual
    2011 BMW X5 35I

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    • efficient
      No R3VLimiter
      • Feb 2012
      • 3312

      #3
      chucked the ps steering since I've started driving my e30. only downside is that the rubber guibo fails because of no assist.
      i been daily driving it with no issues

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      • flyboyx
        R3V OG
        • Sep 2008
        • 8371

        #4
        i've never driven an e30 with actual "according to hoyle" deleted power steering. however, i used to have a silver 91 ix that had a bad pump when i purchased it. my boy and i drove it all the way from charlotte, nc that way. it will say it pretty much sucked ass.
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        • Northern
          R3V Elite
          • Nov 2010
          • 5040

          #5
          I remember when my PS decided not to work during a tight corner in an autox, and I've never wanted to experience that feeling again.

          On the other hand, if I did, I'd do it right and install a non-assisted Z4 rack.

          On an iX though, the steering knuckle doesn't seem to like manual steering and apparently wears out much more quickly, but I can't comment on RWD knuckles.
          Originally posted by priapism
          My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
          Originally posted by shameson
          Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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          • BLACKCHARM88
            E30 Addict
            • Jun 2014
            • 563

            #6
            Originally posted by Northern
            I remember when my PS decided not to work during a tight corner in an autox, and I've never wanted to experience that feeling again.

            On the other hand, if I did, I'd do it right and install a non-assisted Z4 rack.

            On an iX though, the steering knuckle doesn't seem to like manual steering and apparently wears out much more quickly, but I can't comment on RWD knuckles.
            My buddy rocks his IX with no PS and seems to have no problems at all. I honestly think its more enjoyable to drive and its easier to correct in a slide without PS.

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            • ravenlord89
              Advanced Member
              • May 2012
              • 111

              #7
              I have a 13.8" Luisi racing wheel and an E36 rack. I tried it without the power steering to see how it was... awful. It was awful. And that is with 195 tyres. Maybe it would be better with the Stock boat wheel, but I am not putting that back on.
              1990 BMW 325is 5spd Black
              2005 Subaru Impreza 5spd
              2015 Yamaha FZ-07

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              • BLACKCHARM88
                E30 Addict
                • Jun 2014
                • 563

                #8
                Maybe I'm above average but I just don't think its that hard to steer at all and I eventually got used to it.

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                • estoguy
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • May 2013
                  • 1087

                  #9
                  I bought my E30 from my buddy and the rack had been leaking on him, so he just pulled the belt off. I love it the way it is. No problems driving or parking it.
                  Estoguy
                  1986 BMW 325, Alpenweiss ~ "Elsa"

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                  • slammin.e28
                    שמע ישראל
                    • May 2010
                    • 12054

                    #10
                    I drive my Range Rover with 33" tires with no PS.

                    Non-PS e30 is cake.
                    1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                    • rzerob
                      R3VLimited
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 2315

                      #11
                      I hate driving without power steering. It is not hard to turn without it but it is harder than with it. I like the accessories on my car. A/C, power steering, and ABS came with it, so I will keep them for the comfort and convenience.

                      I say keep it, unless you are racing competitively. You don't need those accessories when racing. And parallel parking without power steering sucks.
                      How to remove, install or convert to pop out windows
                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=297611


                      Could be better, could be worse.

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                      • lambo
                        Captain Scene Points
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 10953

                        #12
                        I haven't had it for a few years now and I haven't regretted taking it out. However, when I finally do a z3 1.9 rack I will probably refresh it and reinstall it.

                        Originally posted by SpasticDwarf;n6449866
                        Honestly I built it just to have a place to sit and listen to Hotline Bling on repeat.

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                        • quikveedb2
                          R3VLimited
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2258

                          #13
                          I had mine off for a while but got tired of it & out it back on, it makes general daily driving & particular low speed driving a lot easier, imo. I've read that running a proper power steering delete will give better steering feedback, but I'm not driving my e30 at 10/10ths around town, so I don't find much benefit.
                          Originally posted by Dozyproductions
                          You know why you're drinking that Pabst? No its probably not because it was the first beer you grabbed. It's because you're a winner.

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                          • pandaboo911
                            R3VLimited
                            • May 2010
                            • 2070

                            #14
                            Power steering with a 2.7 LTL rack and under-drive pulley

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                            • Cabriolet
                              R3V OG
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 9620

                              #15
                              no-ps on a stock rack and street tires is easy, even my wife had no issues.
                              no-ps <200 TW tires, slightly hard but my wife could drive it.
                              no-ps on a z3 rack with bfg rivals was hell, possibly dangerous.
                              Much wow
                              I hate 4 doors

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