Manual Steering Rack

[ACHTUNG]

What does a manual steering rack look like? Does anybody have pics or a part number so I can look it up?

Thanks!

[nefarious7907]

I just removed my PS belt :)

[nando]

why does everyone oogle over the manual rack? the ratio is even SLOWER than the power rack, not to mention low speed turning will suck (parking lots and autox, mainly).

[nefarious7907]

I really prefer the weighted feel, I didnt like that I can turn my steering wheel with one finger, actually as long as you are going over 5mph its not bad at all, so autoX is not a problem but backing in and out of park spaces requires you to really yank on the steering wheel. It doesnt take a minute to remove your power steering belt, you should try it for a day.

[xLibelle]

i dont like the mod to just take a power system and remove the belt or looping lines. it doesnt feel as nice as a true manual rack.

on the manual rack, or a modified rack, slow speed steering is tolerable, not something easily done with one hand but its by no means heavy.
the best thing about the manual rack is the response and feel. Its clean and not affected by a power system.

i wrote instructions on modifying a power rack to make it full manual. it should be on this site. i also made a spaner wrench which i can send to anyone if they need to borrow it.

[xLibelle]

remove this seal.

plug the lines.

[nefarious7907]

good deal I will be Tempted to convert it true manual.

[mtechnik]

true true. I have a true manual rack on believe me in a jittery situation non-pwr steering can very save ur hiney!

Overal the manual rack has a nice feel to will slow & higher speed in the E30 is quite light comparing to some other non-pwr steering cars I've driven.

[nando]

I really prefer the weighted feel, I didnt like that I can turn my steering wheel with one finger, actually as long as you are going over 5mph its not bad at all, so autoX is not a problem but backing in and out of park spaces requires you to really yank on the steering wheel. It doesnt take a minute to remove your power steering belt, you should try it for a day.

try doing a tight autox course with the slow manual rack rate. the stock e30 rack is bad enough, the manual one will require way too much steering input.

[Kilomph]

Euro manual rack

32111130169 - $297 - remfd rack
32111130842 - $433 - new rack

Prices from PP, quoted about 6 months ago. I decided against it, 95 M3 seems like the best choice. I'd still love to see what a true manual rack feels like.

[E30 Wagen]

Are there any other faster manual racks that will work in an e30? What kind of weight savings are there without all the power steering components?

edit: what's 'PP'?

[Kilomph]

Are there any other faster manual racks that will work in an e30? What kind of weight savings are there without all the power steering components?

edit: what's 'PP'?

Pelican Parts. I'm pretty sure that's the only manual rack. Who knows though, "with enough money" blah blah.

I think you loose about 10-15 lbs. Don't quote me on that though.

[xLibelle]

that pump is pretty heavy, not to mention the amount of fluid in the res.
by memory of feel, i would guess ~25 (for some reason, its one item i didnt record the weight from before tossing)

[Borat]

why does everyone oogle over the manual rack? the ratio is even SLOWER than the power rack, not to mention low speed turning will suck (parking lots and autox, mainly).

Have you driven an E30 a proper manual rack?
Steering effort isn't too bad at all, just need to be moving and its nothing.

Also, I believe the difference is 4.0 lock/lock for power and 4.1 or something insignificant for manual rack.

[nefarious7907]

I think it would be fun with a 3.0 rack but that would require that much more effort, which might be a good thing