do these h&r race really lower the car 3"

[egk2]

Here's a nice list for you guys, stop bickering.:)


Spring---------------------Front(lb/in.)-------------Rear(lb/in.)

Stock 325i*-----------------------106------------------------245
Stock 325is*----------------------118------------------------265
Stock 325ix*----------------------106------------------------308
Stock M3*-------------------------114------------------------314
Stock M3--------------------------140------------------------250
Dinan Sport-----------------------172------------------------300
H&R OE Sport---------------------180------------------------380
H&R Sport-------------------------180------------------------380
H&R Sport (29664)---------------200------------------------285
H&R Race-------------------------315------------------------ 570
H&R Coilovers***----------------340------------------------380
Eibach Pro-Kit--------------------102-------------------------277
Eibach Race----------------------160-------------------------445
IE SIII----------------------------315-------------------------570
Koni Coilovers-------------------342-------------------------407
Cosmo Coilovers----------------450-------------------------560
Tokico----------------------------165-------------------------265
TMS J-Stock**-------------------680------------------------1026
Alpina(est.)---------------------~200-----------------------~350
FK 60/60 cup kit-----------------379--------------------------379
Vogtland Standard***--------115/197-----------------------360
Vogtland CS***---------------137/200-----------------------400
Vogtland--------------------------225--------------------------360



*= Sourced from June, 1987 article of "Motor"
**= Alternate rates available
***= M3 Application

[errol]

no bickering .. just learning:D

yeah that e30tech post was where i got my numbers for the IE3's. i didn't realize that the cosmos were even on that list..

[speedhop]

wheres the intrax at!?

[einstein57]

this was the best deal i found. But if your going for a slammed look i might consider the cup kit

http://cgi.ebay.com/BMW-Spec-E30-325-M3-H-R-Race-springs-and-shocks_W0QQitemZ280143299141QQihZ018QQcategoryZ33582QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[matt]

Cup kit sucks ass. Don't install it on a car you plan to drive.

[einstein57]

i agree matt. but if he wants it slammed its cheaper than coilovers.

[ccupani]

Carr Industries Inc

To clarify why errol was added to the block bidders list.

When we get an angry person on our ebay store that will leave us bad feedback we do not allow them to purchase. We only deal with BMW enthusiasts and others wanting to learn about the car or product. We are here to help our customers in every way possible and provide the most accurate information from our experience.

I want to thank our existing customers for their support and invite new customers to our website. We are a six bay shop and have been in business since 1985. Our website is www.carrindustries.com We offer discounts and advice to BMW enthusiasts and will try to match prices to give our customers the best price.

For the record, the H&R 50404.88 race springs will lower most E30 Six cylinder cars 2.0 or more inches when used with the correct struts and shocks. Some E30 cars may be less. I always explain this when someone calls.

If you need help with your order or just need some tech advise, don't hesitate to call. The advise is free. Speak with anyone at our shop.


Thank You

Carmine Cupani
336.931.0007
www.carrindustries.com

[heelN'toe joe]

wow, a vendor that cares... a rarity now-a-days.

[Fidhle007]

To clarify why errol was added to the block bidders list.

When we get an angry person on our ebay store that will leave us bad feedback we do not allow them to purchase. We only deal with BMW enthusiasts and others wanting to learn about the car or product. We are here to help our customers in every way possible and provide the most accurate information from our experience.

I want to thank our existing customers for their support and invite new customers to our website. We are a six bay shop and have been in business since 1985. Our website is www.carrindustries.com We offer discounts and advice to BMW enthusiasts and will try to match prices to give our customers the best price.

For the record, the H&R 50404.88 race springs will lower most E30 Six cylinder cars 2.0 or more inches when used with the correct struts and shocks. Some E30 cars may be less. I always explain this when someone calls.

If you need help with your order or just need some tech advise, don't hesitate to call. The advise is free. Speak with anyone at our shop.


Thank You

Carmine Cupani
336.931.0007
www.carrindustries.com

So are you guys a division of Ireland Engineering or what? Having your page and Ireland's page open at the same time causes some funky shit...

[asubimmer]

Carr is a great company. I bought my IE e28 535 urethane motor mounts from their shop in Greensboro when I did my 24v motor swap. They have a nice place and know a lot about our cars. Thanks again for the good parts guys!

[atomic]

To clarify why errol was added to the block bidders list.

When we get an angry person on our ebay store that will leave us bad feedback we do not allow them to purchase. We only deal with BMW enthusiasts and others wanting to learn about the car or product. We are here to help our customers in every way possible and provide the most accurate information from our experience.

I want to thank our existing customers for their support and invite new customers to our website. We are a six bay shop and have been in business since 1985. Our website is www.carrindustries.com We offer discounts and advice to BMW enthusiasts and will try to match prices to give our customers the best price.

For the record, the H&R 50404.88 race springs will lower most E30 Six cylinder cars 2.0 or more inches when used with the correct struts and shocks. Some E30 cars may be less. I always explain this when someone calls.

If you need help with your order or just need some tech advise, don't hesitate to call. The advise is free. Speak with anyone at our shop.


Thank You

Carmine Cupani
336.931.0007
www.carrindustries.com

I have dealt with Carmine before and he is nothing BUT helpful. A true rarity today and I WOULD recommend using them any time.

[errol]

i am sure that CARR is a very helpful and professional business who has been in business for over 20 years, and that is Great!

but please re-read my first post. i quoted the email response that they sent back to me. that wasn't very helpful at all.

I am an enthusiast! How dare they think I am not. i gave them a link to a very informative link, which has been reposted on the top of this page by another member, which showed exactly the lowering i was to expect from the springs they were advertising as a 3" lowering spring. see how he changed his statement when he logged on here and NOW says " For the record, the H&R 50404.88 race springs will lower most E30 Six cylinder cars 2.0 or more inches when used with the correct struts and shocks. Some E30 cars may be less. I always explain this when someone calls" hah!

So i questioned their advertisement practices with helpful links and they ban me? i don't, nor have i ever used foul, or even unprofessional language toward them, or any company(seriously) and that is how they respond to me? come on.. but hey, i am sure i'm just a small percentage of people who've had a negative experience with them. They do sell great products, and are obviously a valuable resource to the bmw community.


P.S. i've been getting alot of PM's regarding this issue from other members asking about this situation.. my advice, as i try to be impartial, would be to call them up for yourselves..if you like how they handle your call, questions, and needs, by all means be a patron. but for me, i've been turned off by the way they handled my questions. i was a potential buyer don't forget.

[asubimmer]

if I was running a business I would hit you w/ a banstick too ;)

I stand behind CARR 100%

[MIKe30]

i am sure that CARR is a very helpful and professional business who has been in business for over 20 years, and that is Great!

but please re-read my first post. i quoted the email response that they sent back to me. that wasn't very helpful at all.

I am an enthusiast! How dare they think I am not. i gave them a link to a very informative link, which has been reposted on the top of this page by another member, which showed exactly the lowering i was to expect from the springs they were advertising as a 3" lowering spring. see how he changed his statement when he logged on here and NOW says " For the record, the H&R 50404.88 race springs will lower most E30 Six cylinder cars 2.0 or more inches when used with the correct struts and shocks. Some E30 cars may be less. I always explain this when someone calls" hah!

So i questioned their advertisement practices with helpful links and they ban me? i don't, nor have i ever used foul, or even unprofessional language toward them, or any company(seriously) and that is how they respond to me? come on.. but hey, i am sure i'm just a small percentage of people who've had a negative experience with them. They do sell great products, and are obviously a valuable resource to the bmw community.


P.S. i've been getting alot of PM's regarding this issue from other members asking about this situation.. my advice, as i try to be impartial, would be to call them up for yourselves..if you like how they handle your call, questions, and needs, by all means be a patron. but for me, i've been turned off by the way they handled my questions. i was a potential buyer don't forget.

sounds well spoken to me. def something i'll keep in the back of my mind...

[errol]

if I was running a business I would hit you w/ a banstick too ;)

I stand behind CARR 100%

dude, did you read any of my posts?? i carefully word everything i write. i try to remain impartial to those asking my opinion, and i even recommended them to others.. i research everything i buy, and i'm an informed consumer.. gimme a break man.