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  • mitch500
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Jan 2006
    • 1092

    #1

    need help fast.

    im putting in my h&r sports and my bilstein sports and ive ran into some problems for the fronts. ive put my new strut in and compressed the spring with the spring compressor, but im having difficulties torqueing the top nut un the strut how do you do it with out the strut spinning? also im using camber plates.
    1. do i compress the spring and thread the top nut hand tight, then loosen off the compressor and then torque from there?
    or
    2. do i compress the spring put the top spring perch on and then camber plate and torque to spec then release the compressor?

    also i tried to torque it with the compressor off but the nut keeps spining all the was to to bottom i think and the camber plate gets really tight, i thought the bearing was supposed to spin freely? i dont no im frustrated.

    anyways i need help quick because i rented the spring compreesor for 3 days and i have to return on the due date to get my money back.

    thank you
    -Mitch/.
    1988 e30 alpine white vert 5speed
    1987 e30 325 eta
    1983 e28 533
    2001 x5 4.4l
    1997 e36 M3 Alpine white 5speed
    1991 Jeep XJ I6 4.0
  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    Compress the spring and assemble the strut. The shock rod has provisions for counter holding the rod while tightening the nut.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • mitch500
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Jan 2006
      • 1092

      #3
      Originally posted by jlevie
      Compress the spring and assemble the strut. The shock rod has provisions for counter holding the rod while tightening the nut.

      yes it does have provisions but on the top where i have a camber plate which i have to use a deep socket to get down into the bearing houseing to tighten it so i cant hold the rod. what i did was clamp the rod under the upper spring perch which was a bitch. all i need to know is when you bolt down the top strut nut to the camber plate bearing/ houseing is it supposed to spin freely? because mine barley spins and it getting really tight and my torque wrench hasnt clicked yet.
      1988 e30 alpine white vert 5speed
      1987 e30 325 eta
      1983 e28 533
      2001 x5 4.4l
      1997 e36 M3 Alpine white 5speed
      1991 Jeep XJ I6 4.0

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      • browntown
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jun 2004
        • 3524

        #4
        impact carefully?

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        • mitch500
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Jan 2006
          • 1092

          #5
          anyone with a answer to the camber plate question
          1988 e30 alpine white vert 5speed
          1987 e30 325 eta
          1983 e28 533
          2001 x5 4.4l
          1997 e36 M3 Alpine white 5speed
          1991 Jeep XJ I6 4.0

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          • Cooper
            Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 99

            #6
            yes, the camber plate should spin, it's the rotation point when you turn the wheels. You need to look at how the top nut and the bottom of the strut contact the bearing, it might require a bushing/shim to contact the bearing and not the plate itself to free up the bearing. I have machined a shoulder on the top nut in the past.. Think of a nut machined to almost look like a T

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            • Joe318is
              R3V OG
              • Sep 2005
              • 6451

              #7
              Spin freely.

              There is a special tool used to torque the bolt. It allows the torque wrench to be offset via a bracket and an 8mm deep well socket to pass through the 17mm [i think] in order to hold the shock rod from turning.
              Last edited by Hick; 08-09-2007, 08:17 AM.


              Originally posted by vlad
              Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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              • mitch500
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Jan 2006
                • 1092

                #8
                thanks guys, i do have a couple washer that cam with the camber plates i will tryand get back to you/. thank s for the help.
                1988 e30 alpine white vert 5speed
                1987 e30 325 eta
                1983 e28 533
                2001 x5 4.4l
                1997 e36 M3 Alpine white 5speed
                1991 Jeep XJ I6 4.0

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                • Joe318is
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 6451

                  #9
                  you may of put too many washers on there


                  Originally posted by vlad
                  Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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                  • psloan
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 9815

                    #10
                    Why not hold the strut with giant pliers and a towel and impact it?
                    "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                    • Joe318is
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 6451

                      #11
                      Because it if mars the surface of the strut it can damage the seals. And thats not an accurate torque setting which can damage the nut and the strut rod.

                      YES, i know it wont reach the top of the travel but thats not the ideal way of doing it.


                      Originally posted by vlad
                      Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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                      • psloan
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 9815

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Joe318is
                        Because it if mars the surface of the strut it can damage the seals. And thats not an accurate torque setting which can damage the nut and the strut rod.

                        YES, i know it wont reach the top of the travel but thats not the idea way of doing it.
                        That's what the towel is for.
                        "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                        • Joe318is
                          R3V OG
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 6451

                          #13
                          the towel has built in torque settings?


                          Originally posted by vlad
                          Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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                          • psloan
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 9815

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Joe318is
                            the towel has built in torque settings?

                            Wrap the towel around the strut tube to keep it from getting scratched. Go easy on the impact then hit it with the torque wrench. the tube should stay put once you get it started.
                            "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                            • Joe318is
                              R3V OG
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 6451

                              #15
                              thats what i want to do with my $119 brand new bilsteins :roll: Go put some sweet M3 springs on your ride

                              DO IT RIGHT


                              Originally posted by vlad
                              Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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