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  • turge
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    • Mar 2011
    • 2576

    #16
    Originally posted by F34R
    Don't do with them...go with these guys! they are a vendor on this very site.

    18 and 20mm staggered would be spot on, you mentioned no issues with flush. Just roll and pull a bit and you're done. Coilovers will allow you to tune the height to a perfect finish.

    http://store.42draftdesigns.com/VWAu...Set_p_446.html
    So 20mm rears and 18mm fronts would make it flush? I is confused.

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    • F34R
      sLaughter
      • May 2009
      • 12385

      #17
      Originally posted by turge
      So 20mm rears and 18mm fronts would make it flush? I is confused.
      Yes, 20mm adapters in the rear and 18mm up front. Pretty much a staggered flush fitment. Et 3 and 5 final fitment.

      See post #61

      I would even say to go for a 23-25mm rear to push out and fill that sidewall gap.


      take notice in his last picture for the sidewall clearance. Bumping it out a bit more in the rear while sticking to the 18mm in the front would fill nicely. BUT this really depends on how low you want to go. I know you are going coilovers, that rear setup is pulled off with camber. If you don't plan on going down and out, I would stick with 18 and 20mm.
      Last edited by F34R; 01-29-2013, 05:02 PM.
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      • turge
        R3VLimited
        • Mar 2011
        • 2576

        #18
        Originally posted by F34R
        Yes, 20mm adapters in the rear and 18mm up front. Pretty much a staggered flush fitment. Et 3 and 5 final fitment.

        See post #61

        I would even say to go for a 23-25mm rear to push out and fill that sidewall gap.


        take notice in his last picture for the sidewall clearance. Bumping it out a bit more in the rear while sticking to the 18mm in the front would fill nicely. BUT this really depends on how low you want to go. I know you are going coilovers, that rear setup is pulled off with camber. If you don't plan on going down and out, I would stick with 18 and 20mm.
        If anything I'm going to slightly lower my car to compensate for the new wheels. I think 18 and 20mm would be fine then.

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        • Jboss12
          Grease Monkey
          • Jan 2012
          • 357

          #19
          Originally posted by turge
          Why did u do 20mm rears?

          Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2
          Spacing out the rear a little more than the front will even out the fitment. You can do a lower offset on the back. I did 20mm because I noticed people did 18mm all around and the rears were inset slightly more than the front. Not that 2mm made the biggest difference but it's noticeable.

          Btw I have the 42draft adapters. They are such a quality build and easy to install

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          • Mr. Tasty
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            • Jul 2011
            • 3421

            #20

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            • Jackson92
              Noobie
              • Jan 2013
              • 5

              #21
              an 18mm adaptor will put the ultimate et at 5 which would be cleanse. No need to complete and routine . . . . . . . . . .


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              Last edited by Jackson92; 02-03-2013, 10:56 PM.

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              • 8380 Labs
                Forum Sponsor
                • Oct 2006
                • 2990

                #22
                to address some of the things said in the this thread:

                Originally posted by Vivek
                If you just want to run these wheels specifically and slightly increase the resale value of them, fill and drill them. You'll need to run spacers.
                on the whole, i'd say filling and drilling reduces the value of your wheels. you will need to run spacers though, see below.

                Originally posted by ak-
                Fill and drill let you play with offsets considering spacers. Adapters don't, you're stuck with flush.
                there's not much more room to play with offsets via spacers and a fill and drill vs. adapters - the smallest fully hubcentric spacer on an e30 is 13mm, which is 5mm less than the most narrow adapter. once you add in the cost of the fill and drill (+ the spacers), you've spent considerably more money for a 5mm difference, which is pretty negligible in appearance.

                Originally posted by Jboss12
                here is my car with e38 style 5's. 18mm front and 20mm rear 4-5 lug adapters. 205/45r16 tires. fenders are not rolled at all.

                the car above is on the 42 draft adapters we sell, as far as i'm aware.

                Originally posted by F34R
                Don't do with them...go with these guys! they are a vendor on this very site.

                http://store.42draftdesigns.com/VWAu...Set_p_446.html
                42 draft is actually not a sponsor on here, we (8380 labs) are - and we are an authorized 42 draft designs dealer. we played a direct role in the development of their 4-to-5-lug adapter kits, and were the first place they were actually made available. they were designed specifically with us e30 guys in mind.

                if you place your orders thru 8380, you're supporting us, as well as 42 draft (same pricing). i've got an e30 and have run these adapters on my own car, so i can answer any questions you have.

                Originally posted by turge
                So 20mm rears and 18mm fronts would make it flush? I is confused.
                18mm is the smallest width available, which is what you want up front. the front wheels on e30s stick out about 5-7mm per side further than the rears, so if you put slightly wider adapters on the back, you'll even the look out a bit more front to back.

                Originally posted by F34R
                I would even say to go for a 23-25mm rear to push out and fill that sidewall gap.
                for most people, that's pushing it a bit from what i've seen.

                here's a post i put together last year that outlines a lot of what's been said in this thread, i.e. 5-lug vs. fill and drill vs. adapters.

                here's a link to our adapter thread on R3V.

                if you have any questions, feel free to PM me here or email me at info@8380labs.com.

                -ethan
                Last edited by 8380 Labs; 01-31-2013, 09:27 AM.
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                • turge
                  R3VLimited
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 2576

                  #23
                  Originally posted by 8380 Labs
                  to address some of the things said in the this thread:



                  on the whole, i'd say filling and drilling reduces the value of your wheels. you will need to run spacers though, see below.



                  there's not much more room to play with offsets via spacers and a fill and drill vs. adapters - the smallest fully hubcentric spacer on an e30 is 13mm, which is 5mm less than the most narrow adapter. once you add in the cost of the fill and drill (+ the spacers), you've spent considerably more money for a 5mm difference, which is pretty negligible in appearance.



                  the car above is on the 42 draft adapters we sell, as far as i'm aware.



                  42 draft is actually not a sponsor on here, we (8380 labs) are - and we are an authorized 42 draft designs dealer. we played a direct role in the development of their 4-to-5-lug adapter kits, and were the first place they were actually made available. they were designed specifically with us e30 guys in mind.

                  if you place your orders thru 8380, you're supporting us, as well as 42 draft (same pricing). i've got an e30 and have run these adapters on my own car, so i can answer any questions you have.



                  18mm is the smallest width available, which is what you want up front. the front wheels on e30s stick out about 5-7mm per side further than the rears, so if you put slightly wider adapters on the back, you'll even the look out a bit more front to back.



                  for most people, that's pushing it a bit from what i've seen.

                  here's a post i put together last year that outlines a lot of what's been said in this thread, i.e. 5-lug vs. fill and drill vs. adapters.

                  here's a link to our adapter thread on R3V.

                  if you have any questions, feel free to PM me here or email me at info@8380labs.com.

                  -ethan
                  Lifetime warranty on the adapters? $300 would be a lot better then paying ~ $400 that some other companies are charging.

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                  • 8380 Labs
                    Forum Sponsor
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2990

                    #24
                    lifetime warranty, yup.

                    pricing is in the second link i posted above - do yourself a favor and read the first link i posted before anything, though.

                    all adapters are not created equal. the design we're offering is the best-designed and safest on the market. do your research and understand what the differences are - or feel free to PM me.

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