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  • robspeed325i
    E30 Addict
    • Oct 2008
    • 403

    #1666
    Originally posted by dannyg
    both centers are stamped rs 070 et 16...if that doesn't make sense how would i figure out the offset?

    whats to figure out? it says it right there: ET16 (16mm offset)

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    • dannyg
      E30 Mastermind
      • Mar 2007
      • 1553

      #1667
      Originally posted by Mystikal
      Both front and rear? That wouldn't make much sense. Double check that first.
      ? I know the lips have been changed, but would that effect offset? The backspacing has stayed the same...This offset stuff really confuses me...:curse:
      1993 325ic Schwarz/Natur
      1991 318is Black/Black - Slicktop - Project s52
      1989 Alpine White/Black M3 S52
      1988 Henna/Pearl M3 <3

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      • robspeed325i
        E30 Addict
        • Oct 2008
        • 403

        #1668
        Originally posted by dannyg
        ? I know the lips have been changed, but would that effect offset? The backspacing has stayed the same...This offset stuff really confuses me...:curse:

        ahh sorry for butting in... they are multi-piece wheels!? yes if you change the lips the offset changes. offset is the difference between the centerline and the mounting surface. if you move the centerline (by changing the size of one of the lips), youve changed offset. measure the total width of the wheel, then the backspacing, then you do a lil math and get the offset. (width/2) - backspacing = offset. most of the time you get a negative number...


        so if i have a 10" wide wheel, and it has backspacing of 5", then the offset is zero. half of 10 (5), minus 5 = zip. if its (backspacing) 5.5, then the offset is -.5 or about 12mm (negative, obviously)....

        i *think* i have that right! ;)

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        • Gooch
          E30 Mastermind
          • Dec 2006
          • 1674

          #1669
          What tires would it take to fit 16x7.5 ET 12 fronts and 16x8.5 ET 21 rears on a five lug swapped e30? Or would they fit correctly? The tires are 205/55/R16 fronts and 225/50/16 (which I'm assuming WON'T fit, but correct me if I'm wrong.)

          Thanks, guys.

          '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
          '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
          '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
          '09 328xi - 6-speed

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          • dannyg
            E30 Mastermind
            • Mar 2007
            • 1553

            #1670
            Here are the pics:

            On the rears from edge to edge I almost get 8.5 inches.



            From tire bead to bead I get 7.5 inches.



            On the fronts from edge to edge I almost get 8 inches.



            From tire bead to tire bead I get 7 inches.



            Here is what the centers are stamped with:



            Safe to say that the fronts haven't had the offset change, because from bead to bead its still 7 inches wide and the centers are marked 7x15 et16? Now what about the rears? Would this be right, 4.25 centerline with 5 backspacing = -.75 = -19mm rear et?
            Last edited by dannyg; 11-02-2008, 11:27 AM.
            1993 325ic Schwarz/Natur
            1991 318is Black/Black - Slicktop - Project s52
            1989 Alpine White/Black M3 S52
            1988 Henna/Pearl M3 <3

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            • robspeed325i
              E30 Addict
              • Oct 2008
              • 403

              #1671
              i get 3.75 as your centerline (you measure from inside lip to inside lip) so your formula is 3.75-5" = 1.25" or about 32mm (31.75mm) negative offset...

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              • dannyg
                E30 Mastermind
                • Mar 2007
                • 1553

                #1672
                So I have et16 in the front and et32 in the rear? is that correct?
                1993 325ic Schwarz/Natur
                1991 318is Black/Black - Slicktop - Project s52
                1989 Alpine White/Black M3 S52
                1988 Henna/Pearl M3 <3

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                • robspeed325i
                  E30 Addict
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 403

                  #1673
                  yep

                  Originally posted by dannyg
                  So I have et16 in the front and et32 in the rear? is that correct?
                  looks that way. somebody correct me if im wrong! :)

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                  • dannyg
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1553

                    #1674
                    I think the backspacing is 4.15 because if the fronts are 16 mm or .65 inches, and my centerline is 3.5 on the fronts, the backspacing has to be 4.15. And if I use the same backspacing for the rears I get 3.75 - 4.15 = -0.4 or 10 mm...is this right?
                    1993 325ic Schwarz/Natur
                    1991 318is Black/Black - Slicktop - Project s52
                    1989 Alpine White/Black M3 S52
                    1988 Henna/Pearl M3 <3

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                    • Mystikal
                      Moderator
                      Wheel Fitment Expert
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 9602

                      #1675
                      Originally posted by turbodefrost
                      I just got 215/40s on my 16x8 wheels running H&R sport springs. I put the fronts on and put it on the ground and the tire height seems really small. I'm thinking about going with a lower suspension soon so would it be a bad idea to pay for some 215/45s?
                      It's not just you, 215/40 is tiny. It can really only be pulled off on LOW cars.

                      The decision is yours. Not my money. :p

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                      • Mystikal
                        Moderator
                        Wheel Fitment Expert
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 9602

                        #1676
                        Originally posted by dannyg
                        Here are the pics:

                        On the rears from edge to edge I almost get 8.5 inches.



                        From tire bead to bead I get 7.5 inches.



                        On the fronts from edge to edge I almost get 8 inches.



                        From tire bead to tire bead I get 7 inches.



                        Here is what the centers are stamped with:



                        Safe to say that the fronts haven't had the offset change, because from bead to bead its still 7 inches wide and the centers are marked 7x15 et16? Now what about the rears? Would this be right, 4.25 centerline with 5 backspacing = -.75 = -19mm rear et?
                        Ah, 070's...those are some rare RS', one of the few that came stock with 1.5" lips.

                        Those are 15x7 ET16 fronts (those are stock lips) and 15x7.5 ET10 rears. You had the right idea measuring from the tire bead sections, this is where it matters. So, 1.5" front lips and 2.0" rear. Not bad at all, and good for an E30.

                        You can do 205/50/15 if you roll the rear fenders well. 195/55/15 will be easier (still need to roll, but a little less aggressively).

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                        • Mystikal
                          Moderator
                          Wheel Fitment Expert
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 9602

                          #1677
                          Originally posted by robspeed325i
                          they currently wear 195/50 falken ziex 512s. they barely (HEHE!) fit my 02 (using 8mm spacers), and they are destined for e30 after spring melt. :)



                          here they are on the 02:
                          For an E30, they'd need the 8mm spacers too. Even with them, they come pretty close to the struts in the front. Of course, something like a 205/55 would be a better size for the E30.

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                          • Mystikal
                            Moderator
                            Wheel Fitment Expert
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 9602

                            #1678
                            Originally posted by Gooch
                            What tires would it take to fit 16x7.5 ET 12 fronts and 16x8.5 ET 21 rears on a five lug swapped e30? Or would they fit correctly? The tires are 205/55/R16 fronts and 225/50/16 (which I'm assuming WON'T fit, but correct me if I'm wrong.)

                            Thanks, guys.
                            Cool sizes.

                            I'd recommend 205/45/16 front and 215/40/16 rear. This will work with a mild fender roll in the back.

                            205/50/16 front and 225/45/16 rear would be even cooler, but you'd definitely need to spend some more time with a heat gun and roller. It'd look great though.

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                            • dannyg
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1553

                              #1679
                              jay should I run the same sizes front and rear? What if I want the stretched look so my lips will stick out?
                              1993 325ic Schwarz/Natur
                              1991 318is Black/Black - Slicktop - Project s52
                              1989 Alpine White/Black M3 S52
                              1988 Henna/Pearl M3 <3

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                              • netcsk
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 1609

                                #1680
                                I've got a quick one for you:
                                I'm currently running 15x7 Kosei's with 225/50s
                                Thinking of going to 16x7.5 et 20
                                My car is not slammed (only M3 springs) and I don't plan on making it much lower in the near future.
                                What tire size do you recommend for me? This sound like the correct offset?
                                Also, if you have a good tire choice for a mostly DD, I'd appreciate it (with some aggressive driving -- my last tires with BF Goodrich Gforce sports and I liked them). If not, no problem.

                                I really appreciate it bud.

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