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  • AL FHA Q!
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2008
    • 390

    #1726
    Originally posted by Mystikal
    I answered your PM. But just for arguments sake here, 195/45 or 205/45 front and 215/40 rear. Fenders rolled flat.
    tanx!:up:
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    • JiXer
      Mod Crazy
      • May 2006
      • 620

      #1727
      Originally posted by cheades
      Do a search under my name, I did the 235/50-15's on 6UL wheels.

      Peeped it. They look sick on there.
      I assume you have them fully installed now.
      What do you think of the performance of the R888?
      Do you autocross or track?
      Any rubbing?

      And what is 6UL?

      J.
      J. Farina

      Yeah, thats me kicking up all that dirt!

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      • Rob@UUC
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        • Nov 2007
        • 420

        #1728
        Originally posted by Mystikal
        Now, on to your fitment question. On a ET25 15x7 rim, the 235 R888 will be around 9.4" wide. With that width, you should clear the front struts and rear shocks by literally a few mm. I know of a particular car ('89 325iS) that ran that exact same section width (225/50/15 V700's on a 15x7.5 wheel) with that exact same offset (ET25), with no spacers; the car had no issues, even in heavy auto-x situations. So I don't see a problem for fitment, especially if you're going to be playing around with iX flares and fender modification. That same car did not even have its fenders rolled.

        I hope that helped!
        Update: no way is the 235/50-15 R888 fitting on the front without hitting the strut. Even the smallest spacer puts it outside the iX flares. Switching to a 195/55-15 front.

        Rears, however...



        Muhahahaaa...

        More pics to come when the new fronts arrive.

        - Rob
        - Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks * 678-679-5360 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com * rob@shortshifter.com
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        • JiXer
          Mod Crazy
          • May 2006
          • 620

          #1729
          Originally posted by Rob@UUC
          Update: no way is the 235/50-15 R888 fitting on the front without hitting the strut. Even the smallest spacer puts it outside the iX flares. Switching to a 195/55-15 front.

          Rears, however...



          Muhahahaaa...

          More pics to come when the new fronts arrive.

          - Rob

          DAMN! Oh, well. Why so narrow in the front?
          Isn't there still something a little wider that would fit up front than the 195's?

          We stuffed these 23x8's in the front of this car and 23x9's in the rear (lots of spacers, but plenty of room to spare on the fender side:


          J.
          Last edited by JiXer; 11-19-2008, 11:00 PM.
          J. Farina

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          • jp_slick
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Aug 2008
            • 1089

            #1730
            i bought some 17x8 i dont know the offset on the wheels but the wheel alone sits about 3/8 inch from the strut im gonna be running 205/40r17 what size spacers im i goin go need, and longer bolt/ studs?

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            • cheades
              Mod Crazy
              • Oct 2003
              • 632

              #1731
              Rob, look at my pics in the members rides and I got the 235/50-15's to fit up front. I need to hit the front fender wells with a hammer though as they rub near full lock, otherwise no issues.

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              • Rob@UUC
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                • Nov 2007
                • 420

                #1732
                Originally posted by JiXer
                DAMN! Oh, well. Why so narrow in the front? Isn't there still something a little wider that would fit up front than the 195's?
                Remember that it's the R888... a lot wider than a "normal" 195. 8.0" static width, 7.5" tread width. It's the closest diameter in the same compound.


                Originally posted by JiXer
                We stuffed these 23x8's in the front of this car and 23x9's in the rear (lots of spacers, but plenty of room to spare on the fender side:
                That's fine for a racecar, but I wanted the tires to be within the fenders. Even with the iX flares, they still stuck out.

                - Rob
                - Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks * 678-679-5360 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com * rob@shortshifter.com
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                • Rob@UUC
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                  • Nov 2007
                  • 420

                  #1733
                  Originally posted by cheades
                  Rob, look at my pics in the members rides and I got the 235/50-15's to fit up front. I need to hit the front fender wells with a hammer though as they rub near full lock, otherwise no issues.
                  Interesting.

                  I first fit them with 15mm spacers, thinking that would be required... and that's way too far out. I have 8mm spacers arriving today. But now that I think about it, I don't think that will help as they are more than 15mm outside of the iX flares.

                  What is the offset of the wheels you are using?

                  - Rob
                  - Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks * 678-679-5360 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com * rob@shortshifter.com
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                  • JiXer
                    Mod Crazy
                    • May 2006
                    • 620

                    #1734
                    Originally posted by Rob@UUC
                    Remember that it's the R888... a lot wider than a "normal" 195. 8.0" static width, 7.5" tread width. It's the closest diameter in the same compound.




                    That's fine for a racecar, but I wanted the tires to be within the fenders. Even with the iX flares, they still stuck out.

                    - Rob
                    OH SHIT!
                    Wait a minute! Those are on an iX! You put 23.3" diameter tires on the front and 24.2" diameter tires on the rear??? PLEASE tell me you haven't been driving the car like that. Not to sound like an ass, but an iX is AWD and has a center viscous coupling. If you run those tires on there you will waste that VC unit in no time. You are going to want to re-think that set up.

                    J.
                    J. Farina

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #1735
                      Originally posted by JiXer
                      OH SHIT!
                      Wait a minute! Those are on an iX! You put 23.3" diameter tires on the front and 24.2" diameter tires on the rear??? PLEASE tell me you haven't been driving the car like that. Not to sound like an ass, but an iX is AWD and has a center viscous coupling. If you run those tires on there you will waste that VC unit in no time. You are going to want to re-think that set up.

                      J.

                      i think he has ix flares on his RWD car

                      there's a chance cheades will let me try them on my car, so we'll know if they fit an ix. I have a feeling they will fit pretty well with a small spacer in the front. i was doing the math yesterday and the rear should clear perfectly.
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                      • cheades
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 632

                        #1736
                        Rob, they are a 15x7.5 et34 and I am using a 12mm spacer on the front. Gives me enough clearance on the strut without going any farther out than needed. The car is low but not obscenely low so that helps me not have any issues rubbing the fenders.

                        Just need to work now on getting rid of the rubbing on the front fender well.

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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827

                          #1737
                          Originally posted by cheades

                          Just need to work now on getting rid of the rubbing on the front fender well.
                          that's the tough part. I zip tied my brake ducts to the fender guard so they wouldn't pop out, but I still rub there. Wouldn't think it should matter for HPDEs though, but maybe for autox.
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                          • Rob@UUC
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                            • Nov 2007
                            • 420

                            #1738
                            Originally posted by JiXer
                            OH SHIT!
                            Wait a minute! Those are on an iX! You put 23.3" diameter tires on the front and 24.2" diameter tires on the rear??? PLEASE tell me you haven't been driving the car like that. Not to sound like an ass, but an iX is AWD and has a center viscous coupling. If you run those tires on there you will waste that VC unit in no time. You are going to want to re-think that set up.
                            No worries... it's not an iX. As nando pointed out, it's a RWD 325is with cut-out fenders and iX flares.

                            I do have an iX also, but that's running 225/45-16 all around:



                            Originally posted by nando
                            there's a chance cheades will let me try them on my car, so we'll know if they fit an ix. I have a feeling they will fit pretty well with a small spacer in the front. i was doing the math yesterday and the rear should clear perfectly.
                            Starting with that et35 offset, you might be right! Kills it for winter use, though... even the D40 M2s that I have don't really work in snow.

                            Originally posted by cheades
                            Rob, they are a 15x7.5 et34 and I am using a 12mm spacer on the front. Gives me enough clearance on the strut without going any farther out than needed.
                            Effectively et22 offset with those spacers... hmmm. That might do it. Won't work for me, though, I need at least a small spacer with the et25 wheels to clear the BBK.

                            I'm still not thrilled with the tire hitting the inner fender on full steering lock on a street car. If it were a track/race car, I wouldn't care, but I'm just building a little street rat that can be a loaner HPDE car for visiting friends. For that reason also, I think I will prefer the 195s for better steering self-centering.

                            Not so good with 15mm spacers, and even the 8mm won't pull it in all the way:



                            Which really has me wondering - if you're at et22 with standard fenders, my car at et25 with iX flares, why are my tires sticking out so much more than 15mm and yours are flush with the narrower fender lip?

                            Now that's a mystery.

                            - Rob
                            - Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks * 678-679-5360 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com * rob@shortshifter.com
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                            • JiXer
                              Mod Crazy
                              • May 2006
                              • 620

                              #1739
                              Originally posted by Rob@UUC
                              No worries... it's not an iX. As nando pointed out, it's a RWD 325is with cut-out fenders and iX flares.

                              I do have an iX also, but that's running 225/45-16 all around:

                              - Rob
                              Man!
                              Good thing you have an iX or I would really have to bring out the poser card for running those flares. Some how owning an iX gives you a hall pass.
                              :)

                              J.
                              J. Farina

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                              • nando
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 34827

                                #1740
                                Originally posted by Rob@UUC

                                Starting with that et35 offset, you might be right! Kills it for winter use, though... even the D40 M2s that I have don't really work in snow.

                                - Rob
                                that's what snow tires are for. :p

                                I'm not sure I would drive with those tires on the street anyway, although I'm sure it would be fun!
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