It seems like pretty much all of you get Conforti chips. Why is this the most popular as opposed to Dinan or Bav Auto? Is it just because of the price? It seems like the programmable chip from Bav-Auto is a good idea because it can be optimized to work with other modifications to your car. Is there really any advantage to this?
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IMO most people went with JC cause word of mouth advertisement. alot of people dont even know that Active Autowerkes makes chips for the E30 for about the same prices. and similar gains. put it this way.. If alot of people have it, then its good. If not alot of people have it, Its not as good. similar case with wheels.
BTW, I have an Active Autowerkes chip. I got it on a Group Buy over a year ago. werkes great. they do sell them used on their site for like 90 bucks. their just not always available. goodluckFOKAI DA'MA'SHI'I ENSANE GRAPPING INT.
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Most people go with JC cuz he's a fucking legend!
JC is famous for his great chip software and is very proud of his work.
Jim.C on Chip Design & Custom Chips
Originally posted by One of JC's BuddiesSubject: JC chip vs Superchips
The first question you should be asking: Is there anybody more brilliant
and more connected with the electronics & mechanical inner workings of
bosch/BMW engine management systems than Jim Conforti. I have to admit I
am a friend of Jim's and am somewhat subjective (and in awe!) when it comes
to my interpretation of his abilities as a chip design genius.
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I thought that almost all E30 chips were ~$250 new...?
The most common argument for JC chips being the best is that while almost all the available chips quote +15hp and +15ft/lbs in peak gains, that the JC chip has the smoothest gains. Apparently JC chips just make a really smooth powerband, while some other chips just go for top end power gains.
I've also heard (on E3S) that Dinan chips are crap for some E30 engines, and that they've caused a number premature engine "deaths."
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Originally posted by JarvisI thought that almost all E30 chips were ~$250 new...?
The most common argument for JC chips being the best is that while almost all the available chips quote +15hp and +15ft/lbs in peak gains, that the JC chip has the smoothest gains. Apparently JC chips just make a really smooth powerband, while some other chips just go for top end power gains.
I've also heard (on E3S) that Dinan chips are crap for some E30 engines, and that they've caused a number premature engine "deaths."
JC is known for great curves and smoothness.
Dinan is horrible for S14 (M3 engines) Rob M3 i believe was talking about they just kill them on E3S. My engine is dead......I used Dinan, i'm not sure if the Revlimiter was working or not :roll:.
I'd trust JC!
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i did alot of research before i got mine & it was a toss up between the bav & JC... i currently have a bav auto chip & got it cuz no one told me the JC chip was cheaper (for the eta :roll: ) & i happened to go to the bav auto show & shine a little while after i decided to buy one
i'm very pleased w/ my chip & have gotten a little over a year of use out of it w/ absolutly no regrets.... too bad it may become unnecessary if i ever get around to making my 2.7i... just have to switch it up for a 325i chip ;)-Pete
LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days
Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Moon Performance | RJ's Motorsport | Motorcycles of Manchester
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No, here's the real deal:
Most of the chips out there are designed to be WOT chips. This means that until wide open throttle conditions are met, the chip is not really presenting any gains. This is good and bad. Good for fuel consumption, bad for all around performance. While it doesn't feel like v-tec kicking in at 5000rpms, there is a noticeable difference.
The Jim C chip affects the entire rpm range, thus, fuel economy is slightly down (if you're that concerned, you don't buy a chip), but the performance is available sooner.
Jim Conforti has had alot of experience and exposure for legitimate reasons.
Dinan is certainly a respectable tuner as well as AA, but they don't have nearly as much exposure, and there is good reasons for that.
I have an eta, and i didn't notice much more performance from the DINAN to the JC chip. It is noticebale in higher gears at hghway speeds, where the torque comes into play. day to day driving won't garner any noticeable diff between the two.
Thats the bottom line.Nick
87 325 5MT
02 IS300 5MT
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Originally posted by Low Level E30What about the quality of Turner Motorsports' chips? Are they any good?-Pete
LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days
Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Moon Performance | RJ's Motorsport | Motorcycles of Manchester
The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) | '06 SV650 (race)
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Originally posted by OreoGaborioOriginally posted by Low Level E30What about the quality of Turner Motorsports' chips? Are they any good?
<<<<<<< Got one in my car - the PO put it in, and I had no idea until just recently 8)
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Originally posted by MattM20Originally posted by Purdue89E30so what about the upgradeable chip? is it a good idea or not really worth it?
i'm not sure how in depth bav auto gets when doing this update... but i doubt they put the car on a dyno... but who knows, they might
the upgradable chip is probably only worth it if you're gonna do alot of other mods... different TB, Intake manifold, exhaust, cam, etc etc etc-Pete
LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days
Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Moon Performance | RJ's Motorsport | Motorcycles of Manchester
The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) | '06 SV650 (race)
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