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  • Purdue89E30
    E30 Modder
    • Nov 2003
    • 991

    #1

    Why Conforti?

    It seems like pretty much all of you get Conforti chips. Why is this the most popular as opposed to Dinan or Bav Auto? Is it just because of the price? It seems like the programmable chip from Bav-Auto is a good idea because it can be optimized to work with other modifications to your car. Is there really any advantage to this?

    "One of my top five favorite, like, cool...nerd cars"

    '89 325i-sold
    '98 528i
  • rayz
    E30 Addict
    • Oct 2003
    • 494

    #2
    IMO most people went with JC cause word of mouth advertisement. alot of people dont even know that Active Autowerkes makes chips for the E30 for about the same prices. and similar gains. put it this way.. If alot of people have it, then its good. If not alot of people have it, Its not as good. similar case with wheels.
    BTW, I have an Active Autowerkes chip. I got it on a Group Buy over a year ago. werkes great. they do sell them used on their site for like 90 bucks. their just not always available. goodluck
    FOKAI DA'MA'SHI'I ENSANE GRAPPING INT.

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    • SykoBMW
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Nov 2003
      • 1065

      #3
      There's one on AA's site for $89 now.

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      • rwh11385
        lance_entities
        • Oct 2003
        • 18403

        #4
        Most people go with JC cuz he's a fucking legend!

        JC is famous for his great chip software and is very proud of his work.

        Jim.C on Chip Design & Custom Chips



        Originally posted by One of JC's Buddies
        Subject: JC chip vs Superchips

        The first question you should be asking: Is there anybody more brilliant
        and more connected with the electronics & mechanical inner workings of
        bosch/BMW engine management systems than Jim Conforti. I have to admit I
        am a friend of Jim's and am somewhat subjective (and in awe!) when it comes
        to my interpretation of his abilities as a chip design genius.
        The man is proud of his work, and stands by it. JC is the best.

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        • Jarvis
          R3VLimited
          • Nov 2003
          • 2132

          #5
          I thought that almost all E30 chips were ~$250 new...?
          The most common argument for JC chips being the best is that while almost all the available chips quote +15hp and +15ft/lbs in peak gains, that the JC chip has the smoothest gains. Apparently JC chips just make a really smooth powerband, while some other chips just go for top end power gains.
          I've also heard (on E3S) that Dinan chips are crap for some E30 engines, and that they've caused a number premature engine "deaths."

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          • rwh11385
            lance_entities
            • Oct 2003
            • 18403

            #6
            Originally posted by Jarvis
            I thought that almost all E30 chips were ~$250 new...?
            The most common argument for JC chips being the best is that while almost all the available chips quote +15hp and +15ft/lbs in peak gains, that the JC chip has the smoothest gains. Apparently JC chips just make a really smooth powerband, while some other chips just go for top end power gains.
            I've also heard (on E3S) that Dinan chips are crap for some E30 engines, and that they've caused a number premature engine "deaths."
            Most all chips run about the same price, that is true. Cheap chips = shoddy made. (Used chips are cool, JC are good finds ~100-150)

            JC is known for great curves and smoothness.

            Dinan is horrible for S14 (M3 engines) Rob M3 i believe was talking about they just kill them on E3S. My engine is dead......I used Dinan, i'm not sure if the Revlimiter was working or not :roll:.

            I'd trust JC!

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            • OreoGaborio
              E30 Fanatic
              • Oct 2003
              • 1285

              #7
              i did alot of research before i got mine & it was a toss up between the bav & JC... i currently have a bav auto chip & got it cuz no one told me the JC chip was cheaper (for the eta :roll: ) & i happened to go to the bav auto show & shine a little while after i decided to buy one

              i'm very pleased w/ my chip & have gotten a little over a year of use out of it w/ absolutly no regrets.... too bad it may become unnecessary if i ever get around to making my 2.7i... just have to switch it up for a 325i chip ;)
              -Pete
              LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days
              Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Moon Performance | RJ's Motorsport | Motorcycles of Manchester

              The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) | '06 SV650 (race)

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              • Jand3rson
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 37587

                #8
                Re: Why Conforti?

                Originally posted by Purdue89E30
                Why is this the most popular as opposed to Dinan or Bav Auto?
                Because Dinan is overpriced yuppie CRAP, and the Jim C chip is about the same price as the Bav auto, with about the same if not better gains.

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                • Inspar8r
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 301

                  #9
                  No, here's the real deal:

                  Most of the chips out there are designed to be WOT chips. This means that until wide open throttle conditions are met, the chip is not really presenting any gains. This is good and bad. Good for fuel consumption, bad for all around performance. While it doesn't feel like v-tec kicking in at 5000rpms, there is a noticeable difference.

                  The Jim C chip affects the entire rpm range, thus, fuel economy is slightly down (if you're that concerned, you don't buy a chip), but the performance is available sooner.

                  Jim Conforti has had alot of experience and exposure for legitimate reasons.

                  Dinan is certainly a respectable tuner as well as AA, but they don't have nearly as much exposure, and there is good reasons for that.

                  I have an eta, and i didn't notice much more performance from the DINAN to the JC chip. It is noticebale in higher gears at hghway speeds, where the torque comes into play. day to day driving won't garner any noticeable diff between the two.

                  Thats the bottom line.
                  Nick

                  87 325 5MT
                  02 IS300 5MT

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                  • Purdue89E30
                    E30 Modder
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 991

                    #10
                    so what about the upgradeable chip? is it a good idea or not really worth it?

                    "One of my top five favorite, like, cool...nerd cars"

                    '89 325i-sold
                    '98 528i

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                    • Low Level E30
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1646

                      #11
                      What about the quality of Turner Motorsports' chips? Are they any good?

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                      • OreoGaborio
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1285

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Low Level E30
                        What about the quality of Turner Motorsports' chips? Are they any good?
                        turner's chip IS the Jim Conforti chip.... 100% good quality
                        -Pete
                        LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days
                        Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Moon Performance | RJ's Motorsport | Motorcycles of Manchester

                        The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) | '06 SV650 (race)

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                        • Low Level E30
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1646

                          #13
                          Originally posted by OreoGaborio
                          Originally posted by Low Level E30
                          What about the quality of Turner Motorsports' chips? Are they any good?
                          turner's chip IS the Jim Conforti chip.... 100% good quality
                          Phat!!!

                          <<<<<<< Got one in my car - the PO put it in, and I had no idea until just recently 8)

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                          • MattM20
                            Mod Crazy
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 641

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Purdue89E30
                            so what about the upgradeable chip? is it a good idea or not really worth it?
                            if your talking about the shark injector or similar flash reprogrammers then they are no good for our cars, only good for obd-II I-6's

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                            • OreoGaborio
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1285

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MattM20
                              Originally posted by Purdue89E30
                              so what about the upgradeable chip? is it a good idea or not really worth it?
                              if your talking about the shark injector or similar flash reprogrammers then they are no good for our cars, only good for obd-II I-6's
                              no, that's not what he's talkin about... bav auto has a chip... same as the other chips, but for another 100 bucks they'll update it whever you do another modification to your car

                              i'm not sure how in depth bav auto gets when doing this update... but i doubt they put the car on a dyno... but who knows, they might

                              the upgradable chip is probably only worth it if you're gonna do alot of other mods... different TB, Intake manifold, exhaust, cam, etc etc etc
                              -Pete
                              LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days
                              Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Moon Performance | RJ's Motorsport | Motorcycles of Manchester

                              The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) | '06 SV650 (race)

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