Buy it, that's a good deal. They fit in the engine bay with no modifications, make a bit more power and way more torque than an m50 and only weigh 15lb's more. The m30 is an underrated swap.
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Originally posted by Liam View PostHow much what?
Dollars, Kilos or inches too big for an e30 engine bay?
See here for specs:
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=125810
For significantly less money you can get a motor that puts out significantly more area under the curve and sounds a lot better, at the expense of a few more lbs over the front axle. Clearly there is more to the cost of an engine swap than the engine itself, but saving $400 and putting out more grunt can't be a bad thing.
Obviously I have not tried either swap, but I don't see the appeal of the M50 over the M30, besides that it's newer and it might fit into the engine bay easier.
Edit: M50s aren't quite as expensive as I thought they were, but a b35 for $350 is a pretty good deal.paint sucks
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Originally posted by Wh33lhop View PostHow is a smaller motor putting out less power the 305?
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Originally posted by e30s52 View PostWhat the are you asking? I dont understand your question.
When the M30 weighs basically the same
Is cheaper
Has significantly more power
Has way more torque and low-end
I don't get your comparison.paint sucks
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Originally posted by Wh33lhop View PostYou said swapping in an M30 instead of an M50 is like taking a 305 instead of a 350.
When the M30 weighs basically the same
Is cheaper
Has more power
Has way more torque
I don't get your comparison.
M30
Weights more
Not as reliable
Fitment
It was a comparison to reliability for the most part.
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From what I have heard the M30 will run forever and even withstands retarded boost if you should choose to go through the trouble to turbo it
The M50 I haven't looked into as much
I am just going off what I have read (consensus) here but the M30 is barely heavier than the M50, and I haven't heard of any fitment issues... what's the deal, do you have to relocate some stuff to get it to fit or hack up the frame?
I still don't get how the M30 is the 305 and the M50 is the 350... maybe I'm just partial to SOHC motors.paint sucks
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Originally posted by Wh33lhop View PostFrom what I have heard the M30 will run forever and even withstands retarded boost if you should choose to go through the trouble to turbo it
The M50 I haven't looked into as much
I am just going off what I have read (consensus) here but the M30 is barely heavier than the M50, and I haven't heard of any fitment issues... what's the deal, do you have to relocate some stuff to get it to fit or hack up the frame?
I still don't get how the M30 is the 305 and the M50 is the 350... maybe I'm just partial to SOHC motors.
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Originally posted by e30s52 View PostYou cant beat the reliability of an m50. You can do a swap for a m50 for or less then the cost of a m30. For the fitment some people on here have had to (massage) the bulkhead so the head isn't resting on it. I just think if you are going through all the trouble of swapping a motor why not get a DOHC motor.
S50/52 intake sound is fucking secks though.paint sucks
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Originally posted by Wh33lhop View PostCall me a ricer but all DOHC swap exhausts I've heard have had rasp out the ass.
S50/52 intake sound is fucking secks though.
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Originally posted by e30s52 View PostM30 maybe cheaper aka 305 and the m50 a 350. A m50 is just a better built motor but I do agree with you on those points that it does make more power/torque.
Originally posted by e30s52 View PostM30
Weights more
Originally posted by e30s52 View PostNot as reliable
Originally posted by e30s52 View PostFitment
Originally posted by e30s52 View PostIt was a comparison to reliability for the most part.
Really, they are both good engines to swap into an e30. Both cost about the same and will be about the same speed-wise.
But this has been discussed before.Byron
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