Help please! My e30 is dying while driving!

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  • jr325es
    Advanced Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 167

    #1

    Help please! My e30 is dying while driving!

    hey guys, I have a 1988 bmw 325... Once the car is running for a while it starts to sputter the eventually dies. I replaced the fuel filter, fuel pump, afm, icv, and ecu. the ecu it had and the one i put in are both 173s. the car hadnt been used in about a year. The car also has a new battery. I need help guys i've searched and tried what i saw. Im pretty sure the fpr is good. and i swapped the first relay from the separate three with the foglight one ( i think thats the main relay).

    Once the car stalls itll turn one but its hard to get it running. then it'll turn off again and becomes even harder to turn on. The car also smells like its running a little rich but it always does since it has 5.0 inj. i put my finger on the coil wire, and fell spark and doesnt feel like it changes when it starts the sputter.

    any thoughts guys? thnx...
    Originally posted by scabzzzz
    Wow. This thread is just full of r3v's elite isnt it? From the college virgin to the racist with an ugly girlfriend to teh mad tyte dorifto guy.. Jeez.

  • s38e30
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 53

    #2
    I think the first relay you switched with the fog light, is for the fuel pump.

    It seems like it is heat related. Try a different Coil if you can, then look at cap and rotor.


    Maybe I am wrong but the Main relay is a 5 pin relay, and the fuel pump is a 4 pin. Could be wrong since this is off the top of my head.

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    • StereoInstaller1
      GAS
      • Jul 2004
      • 22679

      #3
      Originally posted by s38e30

      Maybe I am wrong but the Main relay is a 5 pin relay, and the fuel pump is a 4 pin. Could be wrong since this is off the top of my head.
      Likely main relay: forwardmost in the group of 3 on the strut tower.

      They tend to heat up and crap out, 99% of them out there are 20+ years old.

      It is a 5 pin, as are several other relays on the car...but the configuration is different than any other 5 pin on the car.

      GL!
      Luke

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      • jr325es
        Advanced Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 167

        #4
        thnx guys on my car the realy closest to the front of the three is a four pin...?
        Originally posted by scabzzzz
        Wow. This thread is just full of r3v's elite isnt it? From the college virgin to the racist with an ugly girlfriend to teh mad tyte dorifto guy.. Jeez.

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        • jr325es
          Advanced Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 167

          #5
          in the bottom of the 5 pin does everyones have a little red wire that goes from one of the pins to the other?
          Originally posted by scabzzzz
          Wow. This thread is just full of r3v's elite isnt it? From the college virgin to the racist with an ugly girlfriend to teh mad tyte dorifto guy.. Jeez.

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          • StereoInstaller1
            GAS
            • Jul 2004
            • 22679

            #6
            Originally posted by jr325es
            thnx guys on my car the realy closest to the front of the three is a four pin...?
            What is your car?

            Originally posted by jr325es
            in the bottom of the 5 pin does everyones have a little red wire that goes from one of the pins to the other?
            that would be the other side of the relay coil wire.

            You should have a 5 pin in the forward position if it is M20 powered, unless it is really early (pre-C101)

            Closing SOON!
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            Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

            Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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            • bmw325csi
              R3V Elite
              • May 2007
              • 4045

              #7
              Originally posted by jr325es
              in the bottom of the 5 pin does everyones have a little red wire that goes from one of the pins to the other?
              sounds like the independent fog light mod
              harry/harout

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              • jr325es
                Advanced Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 167

                #8
                the car is a 1988 super eta i think theyre motronic 1.1 the 5 pin is a white relay the others are orange and light orange, where can i buy a new relay?
                Originally posted by scabzzzz
                Wow. This thread is just full of r3v's elite isnt it? From the college virgin to the racist with an ugly girlfriend to teh mad tyte dorifto guy.. Jeez.

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                • jr325es
                  Advanced Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 167

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bmw325csi
                  sounds like the independent fog light mod
                  nope ur confused thats in the fusebox. ;)
                  Originally posted by scabzzzz
                  Wow. This thread is just full of r3v's elite isnt it? From the college virgin to the racist with an ugly girlfriend to teh mad tyte dorifto guy.. Jeez.

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                  • StereoInstaller1
                    GAS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 22679

                    #10
                    I thought the SETA was M1.3, but no difference, they are the same, wiring-wise.

                    As a desperate solution, go buy a fog light relay from a generic source, like an auto parts store. You need a 5 pin SPST relay, where there are 2 "87" pins, but no "87a".

                    A quick trip should show you if that is the issue or not!

                    GL!
                    Luke

                    Closing SOON!
                    "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                    Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                    Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                    • bimma360
                      Forum Sponsor
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1937

                      #11
                      To me it sounds like your cat is clogged. My car runs on the rich side as well... and i had a crappy aftermarket cat on to pass inspection... three months later the thing had a complete meltdown, and my car had symptoms pretty much like yours. Put the test pipe back on and problem was fixed. Buddy of mine had the same thing with his e30 except it wouldnt go over 2500rpm. Since your car is running rich... i'm willing to bet money on the fact that its your cat.

                      Dave
                      E30 Dinan Turbo

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                      • StereoInstaller1
                        GAS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 22679

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bimma360
                        To me it sounds like your cat is clogged. My car runs on the rich side as well... and i had a crappy aftermarket cat on to pass inspection... three months later the thing had a complete meltdown, and my car had symptoms pretty much like yours. Put the test pipe back on and problem was fixed. Buddy of mine had the same thing with his e30 except it wouldnt go over 2500rpm. Since your car is running rich... i'm willing to bet money on the fact that its your cat.

                        Dave
                        I have never seen a clogged cat cause a "sputter", but I have now personally fixed 3 cars with bad main relays that did.

                        I say $5 for a known good relay is at least a good starting point, y'know?

                        Closing SOON!
                        "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                        Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                        Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                        • bimma360
                          Forum Sponsor
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1937

                          #13
                          Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                          I have never seen a clogged cat cause a "sputter", but I have now personally fixed 3 cars with bad main relays that did.

                          I say $5 for a known good relay is at least a good starting point, y'know?
                          Yeah i agree. Also on the same note... i take back what i said, b/c today my car started doing the same thing it did before i removed the cat. I dont think my problem and the OP's are the same. But i do know that my buddy had a clogged up cat and his car wouldnt go above 2500rpm. Sorry for the confusion.

                          Dave
                          E30 Dinan Turbo

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                          • jr325es
                            Advanced Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 167

                            #14
                            hey Luke, i tried to look for the relay autozone wasn't in the zone... they only had four pin relays. Do you know where else can i get one? BMW dealer? If so are the gonna jip me? thnx
                            Originally posted by scabzzzz
                            Wow. This thread is just full of r3v's elite isnt it? From the college virgin to the racist with an ugly girlfriend to teh mad tyte dorifto guy.. Jeez.

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                            • jr325es
                              Advanced Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 167

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bimma360
                              Yeah i agree. Also on the same note... i take back what i said, b/c today my car started doing the same thing it did before i removed the cat. I dont think my problem and the OP's are the same. But i do know that my buddy had a clogged up cat and his car wouldnt go above 2500rpm. Sorry for the confusion.

                              Dave
                              its okay man at least you guys are trying to help thnx though:)
                              Originally posted by scabzzzz
                              Wow. This thread is just full of r3v's elite isnt it? From the college virgin to the racist with an ugly girlfriend to teh mad tyte dorifto guy.. Jeez.

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