ae86 vs. e30

[nano408]

has anyone ever driven both of these and would like to give me a comparison on how they each perform? i was looking for an ae86 but havent been able to afford one but came across a $2k 1985 e30 325e. i am now contemplating getting the e30 becauseit has racing bucket seats, short ram intake, remus exhaust, kyb struts front/back, sway bars, dynamics rear spoiler, 2002 325i rims/wheels. are they a hassle or problematic at all? oh and its has 114k

[geezerman402]

My neighbour owns one, does that count?

[nano408]

have you driven it before?

[namsayin]

87e30 got beat by my friends stock ae86 when it was stock although it was sort of an unfair race.

[Wh33lhop]

The hachi is slow, if you can find a GTS they are waaaayyyy overpriced and still only have 115hp or something retarded, plus they have a solid axle. SR5s have something like 70hp IIRC (don't quote me on that). At least the eta has torque.

I would ignore the eta and find a 325i or is in decent condition. Hachis are fun and all but they're retarded slow until you do a swap. And white etas are still great cars, they're slow too. They're just not so annoying about it.

[nano408]

87e30 got beat by my friends stock ae86 when it was stock although it was sort of an unfair race.

haha im talking about overall peformance,or balance. what happened?

[nano408]

The hachi is slow, if you can find a GTS they are waaaayyyy overpriced and still only have 115hp or something retarded, plus they have a solid axle. SR5s have something like 70hp IIRC (don't quote me on that). At least the eta has torque.

I would ignore the eta and find a 325i or is in decent condition. Hachis are fun and all but they're retarded slow until you do a swap.

so you dont think its a good buy? i was planning on swapping it out later anywho. or just buy an i head and replace the e head with it

[Jesse30]

both are scary cars. both are super fun. so the question is, do you want expensive mods for a euro car, or expensive mods for a jdm car...


when i say expensive, i mean its expensive to do it right.

[namsayin]

so you dont think its a good buy? i was planning on swapping it out later anywho. or just buy an i head and replace the e head with it

definitely not a good buy

and go with an at least an i, you'll be happy with the performance for awhile.

[nano408]

both are scary cars. both are super fun. so the question is, do you want expensive mods for a euro car, or expensive mods for a jdm car...


when i say expensive, i mean its expensive to do it right.

i just want a head to head comparison on which performs better as a balanced car: handling/acceleration

[Wh33lhop]

so you dont think its a good buy? i was planning on swapping it out later anywho. or just buy an i head and replace the e head with it

Not quite that easy

Since it's an 85, if you want any reasonable compression you'll either need different pistons or a pretty rare "731" head off a 323i, otherwise you're stuck with an atrocious CR

I think you should wait around for the right car

And I'm not sure how he put E46 wheels on it unless he did a 5 lug conversion, in which case you might want to get it after all

[namsayin]

an ae86 needs a ton of work to look decent

at least with an i you could do some basic mods and have it look halfway decent!

in no particular order drop, lip, wheels = badass e30

edit: i should say with the CORRECT drop, lip, wheels = badass e30

[nano408]

definitely not a good buy

and go with an at least an i, you'll be happy with the performance for awhile.

shet. i kinda needed a car to get to school/work/house

[Jesse30]

i just want a head to head comparison on which performs better as a balanced car: handling/acceleration

well then give some more information..

ae86 gts? sr5?

325e/s?,325i/s?,318i(84-85),318is(1991)

they're handle differently, brake differently and accelerate differently.

-Jesse

[Wh33lhop]

i just want a head to head comparison on which performs better as a balanced car: handling/acceleration

It's not that simple, but the basic idea is

Hachi generally handles better
325i is faster in a straight line hands down
E30 has more sophisticated suspension design (although they're both very old designs at this point, independent rear will be more compliant than a live axle)
If you ask me, the bimmer is the more balanced car, a hachi is sort of like a miata coupe (no power but fun anyway), except less gay which is clearly why they cost more.