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  • BS87
    E30 Mastermind
    • Oct 2003
    • 1606

    #16
    Practice in a deserted parking lot. Also, you gotta watch out the first few storms, because thats when the crazy fuckers are out. After the first 3-4 good storms, they have either wrecked their cars, or scared themselves out of driving.

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    • Mystikal
      Moderator
      Wheel Fitment Expert
      • Nov 2003
      • 9602

      #17
      Originally posted by BS87
      Practice in a deserted parking lot. Also, you gotta watch out the first few storms, because thats when the crazy fuckers are out. After the first 3-4 good storms, they have either wrecked their cars, or scared themselves out of driving.
      I heard on the news the figure of 600 collisions in the Toronto area alone this Monday (first snowfall). :shock:

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      • 92 mtechnic cabrio
        Honesty is not the best policy!
        • Dec 2003
        • 4907

        #18
        Originally posted by Mystikal
        Originally posted by BS87
        Practice in a deserted parking lot. Also, you gotta watch out the first few storms, because thats when the crazy fuckers are out. After the first 3-4 good storms, they have either wrecked their cars, or scared themselves out of driving.
        I heard on the news the figure of 600 collisions in the Toronto area alone this Monday (first snowfall). :shock:
        where's the applaud smiley when you need it
        R.I.P 07/01/09 - 04/23/10 :(

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        • kansas-ix
          E30 Mastermind
          • Jan 2004
          • 1600

          #19
          Originally posted by Charlie
          Dude, AWD helps you defy the laws of physics, didn't you get the memo?

          -Charlie
          Yep thats why I dropped that class stuff is nonsense
          E30 325ix 62k

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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #20
            Originally posted by Mystikal
            Originally posted by kansas-ix
            Say no more than 2 letter: IX.

            Snow can eat a dick!
            Until you need to stop or turn. Your logic matches the average SUV driver's.
            the difference is, the ix has a RWD bias so rotating the car is easy... and a RWD car can't stop any better either, it sure as hell can't move like an AWD car. that's what snow tires are for!
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            • Mystikal
              Moderator
              Wheel Fitment Expert
              • Nov 2003
              • 9602

              #21
              Originally posted by nando
              the difference is, the ix has a RWD bias so rotating the car is easy... and a RWD car can't stop any better either, it sure as hell can't move like an AWD car. that's what snow tires are for!
              My points was the AWD car really has nothing over the RWD car on anything but acceleration in street driving. It's just that much easier to build too much speed and slip off the intended path.

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              • BMW BMXER
                R3VLimited
                • Oct 2003
                • 2325

                #22
                600 accidents? Sheesh by the time I woke up and headed out there wasn't even enough snow left to have fun.

                I have yokohama somethings on the front.
                And one nordic apline and one good year all season on the rear.

                I have another nordic apline but its leaking at the rim and I have not had a chance to get into the auto shop at my old highschool and fix it up.

                Oh on 14" Steelies..

                Sold it.

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                • E30ownerwithanopinion
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 1526

                  #23
                  Originally posted by kansas-ix
                  Say no more than 2 letter: IX.

                  Snow can eat a dick!

                  how about 4-Matic?

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                  • E30ownerwithanopinion
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 1526

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mystikal
                    Originally posted by nando
                    the difference is, the ix has a RWD bias so rotating the car is easy... and a RWD car can't stop any better either, it sure as hell can't move like an AWD car. that's what snow tires are for!
                    My points was the AWD car really has nothing over the RWD car on anything but acceleration in street driving. It's just that much easier to build too much speed and slip off the intended path.
                    agreed 4 wheel drive is great to get you going in the snow ans ice but stoping is the same as anyother car....

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                    • kansas-ix
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1600

                      #25
                      Originally posted by E30ownerwithanopinion
                      Originally posted by kansas-ix
                      Say no more than 2 letter: IX.

                      Snow can eat a dick!

                      how about 4-Matic?
                      yup that too, and 4-motion, Syncro, quattro, all means go anywhere anytime, I never said anything about stopping that is common sense that it is the same.
                      E30 325ix 62k

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                      • christophbmw
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 363

                        #26
                        Originally posted by UNHCLL
                        ABS is the devil.
                        You should never need it. Learn to threshold brake, its faster stopping than ABS.

                        I went out in the ice/snow storm we had and had no issues. Cheapy Winterforce's on bottlecaps.
                        ...ya maybe on the snow/ice it is faster to threshold brake because your prepared, but what if a deer jumps in front of you? and you hit your brakes and swerve? then what?
                        '91 318is

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                        • BMW BMXER
                          R3VLimited
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 2325

                          #27
                          Originally posted by christophbmw
                          Originally posted by UNHCLL
                          ABS is the devil.
                          You should never need it. Learn to threshold brake, its faster stopping than ABS.

                          I went out in the ice/snow storm we had and had no issues. Cheapy Winterforce's on bottlecaps.
                          ...ya maybe on the snow/ice it is faster to threshold brake because your prepared, but what if a deer jumps in front of you? and you hit your brakes and swerve? then what?
                          Once you know how to threshold brake it becomes instinct.

                          Sold it.

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                          • silverblades181
                            Wrencher
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 222

                            #28
                            I was wondering, this being my first winter with my BMW (also first full winter as a driver) is puting weight in the trunk a good or bad idea with the RWD? I've got 4 winter trac or something like that. Also (bare with me, I haven't been driving long) what's threshold braking?
                            E30 325i 1990 (Winter beater)
                            E36 M3/4/5 1997 (Futur IP car?)
                            BMW Club of Quebec

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                            • UNHCLL
                              R3V OG
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 8789

                              #29
                              Originally posted by christophbmw
                              Originally posted by UNHCLL
                              ABS is the devil.
                              You should never need it. Learn to threshold brake, its faster stopping than ABS.

                              I went out in the ice/snow storm we had and had no issues. Cheapy Winterforce's on bottlecaps.
                              ...ya maybe on the snow/ice it is faster to threshold brake because your prepared, but what if a deer jumps in front of you? and you hit your brakes and swerve? then what?
                              I threshold brake automatically. Its "1st nature" I never ever rely on ABS. Sure there can be occasions where ABS is helpful, but once you've learned how to THB its always going to be a shorter stop.

                              Did you miss the part about me TEACHING students how to Threshold Brake? We do it in:
                              1) Straight Line
                              2) Brake & Turn
                              3) High speed single & Double Lane change.



                              Silverblades181 - Threshold Braking is the ability to step on the brakes and apply the maximum amount of braking force without engaging the ABS. It takes practice and you have to "get the feel" for when ABS is going to kick in.

                              As for weight.... You can yes, it will help. Throw a bag of sand in the back.. or some clay cat litter. This serves 2 purposes... 1) add's some weight over your rear wheels. 2) you can use the sand/cat litter to help gain traction if you ever get stuck.


                              I don't use any weight in my trunk. Never gotten stuck. Tip: Find an empty parking lot. Learn how to drive in crappy weather in that lot so you can get a feel for the car and its response to different weather.
                              Below the radar...

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                              • nando
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 34827

                                #30
                                Originally posted by christophbmw
                                Originally posted by UNHCLL
                                ABS is the devil.
                                You should never need it. Learn to threshold brake, its faster stopping than ABS.

                                I went out in the ice/snow storm we had and had no issues. Cheapy Winterforce's on bottlecaps.
                                ...ya maybe on the snow/ice it is faster to threshold brake because your prepared, but what if a deer jumps in front of you? and you hit your brakes and swerve? then what?
                                honestly, if you're travelling at any decent sort of speed (say, 50mph) chances are you're going to nail that deer before you have much chance to swerve/brake anyway.
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