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  • Hick
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2005
    • 6451

    #721
    I think Button was sandbagging a little bit to allow Hamiltion to run away with it. Vettel was getting frustrated seeing Hamilton pull out over a second a lap and had had enough by the time he tried the move... an 'all or nothing' moment, if you will. Theres no way Button was that much slower than Hamilton, its just another example of team orders.

    I dont agree with the drive through, Vettels race was hurt by the crash too. And i REALLY dont agree with lawyer Dave that Liuzzi was hit by Vettel, Liuzzi was holding him up. That was a racing incident if anything.


    Originally posted by vlad
    Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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    • YAN-3
      R3V OG
      • Jan 2004
      • 6018

      #722
      Originally posted by 323iNathan
      Could they not find any other ex f1 drivers in the world available?
      Get Kimi as a stewart, and watch Heiki take a Lotus to the podium.

      awesome race, really a good one from start to finish!

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      • Dave
        E30 RAT
        • Nov 2003
        • 11675

        #723
        Hick,

        I watched the replay again on Liuzzi. Yes, Seb was faster. And I do agree it was a racing incident. Certainly not as big of an error by Vettel in that pass. But to be honest, if he is not up front turning clean fast laps, Vettel is a bit of a kamikaze driver.

        Webber and Vettel both seem to have lapses in judgment. The major difference is, Webber's is usually only with his mouth - and he only sometimes hurts himself. Vettel is usually doing it at speed - where he can actually cause harm to others.

        All in all, an enjoyable race to watch. I'd love to turn a lap at Spa someday.
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        • YAN-3
          R3V OG
          • Jan 2004
          • 6018

          #724
          yea dudes!!! still No 1

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          • naplesE30
            E30 Mastermind
            • Nov 2007
            • 1830

            #725
            What was the cause for Webers terrible start? Have they said clutch probs or just driver error. Vettel is pressing to much, my guess is now he is pretty much out of the points he will actually relax and drive better, but will have to fall in line behind Weber.

            Holy shit the ferrari's rear suspension is stout, alsonso was absoluetly drilled, and didnt skip a beat. I was waiting for it to fail all race and then he slides and wrecks the front suspension instead.

            Glad to see ol Bobby Kubitzer back on the podium, and a nice performance by Schumi. All in all just another day at SPA the best track on the schedule, these old tracks kick ass. Only two weeks till Monza

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            • tg318is
              R3VLimited
              • Jun 2008
              • 2052

              #726
              ^ Clutch problems. On the formation lap he had a small problem with the clutch. He changed a few settings but just made it worse and when he tried to go his car bogged down and grabbed anti-stall
              Tim.

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              • Jparkr
                HR Admin
                • Jan 2006
                • 3494

                #727
                All in all that was one of the most intense races I have seen in a little while. Even though I am disappointed by Hamilton winning, at least I can honestly say he completely earned it.

                1987 PRO-3 car /1990 325is (2.7i Concours)

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                • Dozyproductions
                  R3V Elite
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 4682

                  #728
                  Originally posted by naplesE30
                  these old tracks kick ass.
                  Never really got into F1 so I honestly want to know your opinion on the difference between old and new tracks.

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                  • Ray Smoodiver
                    Moderator
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 8809

                    #729
                    New = boring

                    Old = exciting

                    That's as simple as I can make it.

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                    • pharow
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1021

                      #730
                      the old tracks are classic. they never let you down with a boring race. they have beautiful surroundings and scenery. there are lots of differences in types of turns. the surroundings set how the race is set.

                      the new tracks are cool, but its like they have no soul. they are man made...if u get what im saying. designed on a computer, and layed out flat. i wont say tht they are boring, they just dont have what the old tracks have.
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                      • E-Thirty
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1331

                        #731
                        Originally posted by alice809
                        Thanks friends for sharing such a large content.
                        Hahaha, such relevance.
                        Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                        Do you feel like something is trying to penetrate your butthole?

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                        • naplesE30
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1830

                          #732
                          Ill say it, they are boring unless it rains and suck ass. Its one giant parade lap and the pace is slower. Slow corners, and pancake flat topography. Limited places to pass, and like pharow was saying they have a sterile feel to them. The old classic tracks are just that, classic. Lots of elevation change, off camber corners, high speed corners, generally long layouts cut through the country side, exception to these features is Monacco. Prob is new tracks are more lucuritive to F1, and have better facilities. The worst are the new street circuts, and Bahrain. Yeah the surroundings and garages are modern and pretty, but they have no character and do not show case what these machines are capable of. I mean to watch an F1 car go into eau rouge is absolutely amazing, and thats on tv which does not capture the true speed and change in elevation. Then watch singapore, bahrain, valencia, malaysia, china, and Im sure India will be the same, any tilke designed track other then one turn in hungary and you will understand.

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                          • E30Kaiser
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1790

                            #733
                            Originally posted by naplesE30
                            Ill say it, they are boring unless it rains and suck ass. Its one giant parade lap and the pace is slower. Slow corners, and pancake flat topography. Limited places to pass, and like pharow was saying they have a sterile feel to them. The old classic tracks are just that, classic. Lots of elevation change, off camber corners, high speed corners, generally long layouts cut through the country side, exception to these features is Monacco. Prob is new tracks are more lucuritive to F1, and have better facilities. The worst are the new street circuts, and Bahrain. Yeah the surroundings and garages are modern and pretty, but they have no character and do not show case what these machines are capable of. I mean to watch an F1 car go into eau rouge is absolutely amazing, and thats on tv which does not capture the true speed and change in elevation. Then watch singapore, bahrain, valencia, malaysia, china, and Im sure India will be the same, any tilke designed track other then one turn in hungary and you will understand.
                            Turkey is decent as well, the only thing Tilke has done right.
                            "We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time"-Colin McCrae

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                            • Dozyproductions
                              R3V Elite
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4682

                              #734
                              thanks for answering the question. I definitely do love seeing tracks with a bunch of greenery or something like it and elevation change. How can it be that this Tilke guy is designing so many tracks now a days?

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                              • vlad
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 0

                                #735
                                Belgium was a lot of fun, throwing the rain in the mix brought some excitement, finally ! At least I didn't fall asleep once watching this race

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