R12 to R134 ac conversion?

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  • kronus
    R3V OG
    • Apr 2008
    • 13008

    #16
    Found the receipt. With a new $700 r134a-ready compressor, it came to $1459.55 total.

    (which is about what I paid for the car, 2 years later :3)
    cars beep boop

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    • e34john
      No R3VLimiter
      • Apr 2006
      • 3599

      #17
      How much R12 do you need? I might be up there at the end of the month.

      Otherwise drive down to TJ, just make sure they don't fill up your system with propane.
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      • gone002
        E30 Modder
        • Dec 2007
        • 877

        #18
        wow 1400$ is a grip!!!....more than the car is worth.

        i never heard of freeze12...ill have to look it up,
        no conversion necessary?

        and sweaty balls on a date = no puss! =(
        bimmerboltsandparts.com

        bring back the neeked broads!!!
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        • tjts1
          E30 Mastermind
          • May 2007
          • 1851

          #19
          Just get Duracool. Best $20 I ever spent. Or drive to TJ and get it refilled with R12. Don't get shot.

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          • Naplm00
            E30 Mastermind
            • Nov 2008
            • 1573

            #20
            Or just run the synthetic 134a+ that you can get at most autoparts stores. IT has a lube built in and works fine with older systems.

            Its like $20 a can.


            I put this in my eta and it was cold for 2 years until i scrapped it. all you need are the adapters to fill it, they are usually in the same isle and about $15 bucks.

            GETTING STARTED Explore our products for R-12, R-134a, and R-1234yf vehicles and discover just how easy it is to restore your vehicle’s cold air yourself.” Explore More Port Finder Already have the product? Search our database to find the location of your car’s port. Search Database HOW-TO VIDEOS See how easy it is to recharge...


            GETTING STARTED Explore our products for R-12, R-134a, and R-1234yf vehicles and discover just how easy it is to restore your vehicle’s cold air yourself.” Explore More Port Finder Already have the product? Search our database to find the location of your car’s port. Search Database HOW-TO VIDEOS See how easy it is to recharge...
            88 325ic ~~~> Rusty and ugly
            85 E ~~~> RIP

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            • hugh jass
              R3VLimited
              • Dec 2003
              • 2220

              #21
              r12 is getting cheaper and cheaper actually. there are fewer and fewer cars out there that run r12. you can find cans on craigslist, and most shops still have it. don't convert to r134 unless you have to, it sucks compared to r12.

              for example:

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              • guibo09
                E30 Modder
                • Dec 2008
                • 834

                #22
                Originally posted by hugh jass
                r12 is getting cheaper and cheaper actually. there are fewer and fewer cars out there that run r12. you can find cans on craigslist, and most shops still have it. don't convert to r134 unless you have to, it sucks compared to r12.

                for example:

                http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1630016673.html
                wow wasnt r12 like 100$ a lbs not too long ago?

                i would also like to refer people to this thread and the two useful PDFs there: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1225303

                notice in the second PDF that r134a systems blow COLDER than r12 systems. Im not sure if this includes retrofitted systems also however.
                Last edited by guibo09; 03-08-2010, 11:57 AM.
                90 E30 325i

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                • tjts1
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • May 2007
                  • 1851

                  #23
                  Originally posted by guibo09
                  Im not sure if this includes retrofitted systems also however.
                  It doesn't. Retrofited R12 to R134 systems are pathetic.

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                  • hugh jass
                    R3VLimited
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 2220

                    #24
                    Originally posted by tjts1
                    It doesn't. Retrofited R12 to R134 systems are pathetic.
                    yes, r12 condensers aren't really designed for r134. you really have to replace everything to efficiently run r134 in an older car, and that costs a crapload.
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                    Blunt Tech Industries
                    West Coast and Pacific Rim

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                    • boom-monkey
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1104

                      #25
                      Originally posted by tjts1
                      It doesn't. Retrofited R12 to R134 systems are pathetic.
                      Quoted from experience?

                      My car is retrofitted, in Florida summers 95 degrees and 80% humidity I'd have to adjust the heat cause it was too cold.

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                      • 619E30
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 1753

                        #26
                        Freeze12
                        Originally posted by audiquattrot
                        bimmers b4 b*tches....remember that.
                        1990 Alpinweiss 325i - secret 500whp build
                        2000 Audi S4 B5 Laser Red
                        1990 Nissan 240sx - Drift Missile
                        2006 CBR600RR

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                        • gone002
                          E30 Modder
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 877

                          #27
                          Originally posted by tjts1
                          Just get Duracool. Best $20 I ever spent. Or drive to TJ and get it refilled with R12. Don't get shot.

                          yeah i wont be driven to TJ unless in need a burritto and an open gunshot wound!

                          i looked everywhere for r12 no one will touch the stuff here in cali

                          for 50$ freeze 12 looks like the sheet!
                          how come none of the shops i talked to offered it?
                          bimmerboltsandparts.com

                          bring back the neeked broads!!!
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                          • gone002
                            E30 Modder
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 877

                            #28
                            Originally posted by hugh jass
                            r12 is getting cheaper and cheaper actually. there are fewer and fewer cars out there that run r12. you can find cans on craigslist, and most shops still have it. don't convert to r134 unless you have to, it sucks compared to r12.

                            for example:

                            http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1630016673.html

                            wow dude at f**kin around ! he hit me up already..how many cans do i need?
                            bimmerboltsandparts.com

                            bring back the neeked broads!!!
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                            • 619E30
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 1753

                              #29
                              If you come down to sd I can do it, I have a bunch. 10 bucks a can
                              Originally posted by audiquattrot
                              bimmers b4 b*tches....remember that.
                              1990 Alpinweiss 325i - secret 500whp build
                              2000 Audi S4 B5 Laser Red
                              1990 Nissan 240sx - Drift Missile
                              2006 CBR600RR

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                              • 619E30
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 1753

                                #30
                                I only needed 2 cans
                                Originally posted by audiquattrot
                                bimmers b4 b*tches....remember that.
                                1990 Alpinweiss 325i - secret 500whp build
                                2000 Audi S4 B5 Laser Red
                                1990 Nissan 240sx - Drift Missile
                                2006 CBR600RR

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