My wife tells me she is Pregnant this morning.

[REVHARD05]

Modern Japanese minivans are faster than 95% of the cars on this board. True story.

are they safer?

[Axxe]

This is a very interesting statment. Like a Honda or a Toyota?

Toyota Sienna has around 270 hp these days out of a 3.5 v6 and the smoothest autobox in the segment. Honda has around the same power, also with a 3.5. The odyssey trumps the Sienna in handling, double wishbone front and rear to strut/torsion beam.

My family has a 2006 (240hp 3.3L), which scoots like crazy. Two years ago we went to daytona beach and back doing 90+ mph the entire way in complete comfort. Car hides it's size and weight very well.

[Axxe]

are they safer?

By a hundredfold. Real crumple zones, multi-stage airbags (including side curtain), door bars, etc. Also, amazing brakes. Anyone that has driven an american P.O.S. van (caravan or equilavent) should know that the japanese only share the same segment, but are in a completely different class.

[george graves]

Are minivans still classified as a truck or something for crash ratings? I thought the car companies convinced congress that since it was as small segment of the market it doesn't go through the same testing as a sedan? Hopefully someday they'll change that!

Oh and BTW, you can talk about how awesome it is till you're blue in the face. It's still a minivan.

[z31maniac]

"Oh puhlease, I have 14 children. The strange thing is though, I've only had sex with my wife twice. Both times with a gun to my head."

[VacMan]

Guys who drive mini-vans are whipped. :-D

No, they're confident in their manliness and don't let their choice in vehicles affect how they feel about themselves. :D Our Limited is the van Lexus would sell if they badged one.

Modern Japanese minivans are faster than 95% of the cars on this board. True story.

Ain't that the truth. I like to tell the story about my wife walking me in her Sienna while my daughter was watching Elmo's World in the back seat. I could see the screen first through the side window, then through the rear window as she pulled on me.

This is a very interesting statement. Like a Honda or a Toyota?

We have an '05 Sienna which only has ~230hp, but the new ones with 265 will do 0-60 in well under 8 seconds and the quarter in 16 flat or better.

are they safer?

Minivans are 100x safer than an E30. Is that even a serious question? Our van is a rolling bank vault...that's why I bought it.

[george graves]

No, they're confident in their manliness and don't let their choice in _______ affect how they feel about themselves.

That statement is only true if you are talking about wearing the color salmon. Not Minvans.

[Matt-B]

pics of wife?

[VacMan]

That statement is only true if you are talking about wearing the color salmon. Not Minvans.

You know how I know you're gay? 1.) Overly debating the point. You "doth protest too much, methinks." 2.) You know what the color salmon is.






Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[george graves]

You know how I know you're gay? You know what the color salmon is.

OK - you have a point.

[ten2doyle102]

Falcon punch bro.

And congrats!

This.

[chadthestampede]

You know what the color salmon is.

No he doesn't. That's pink.

This is salmon:

[george graves]

No. I'm right. You're wrong.

When men wear the color pink, it's often refereed to as salmon. It's pink alright, but it will be called salmon. You should have paid more attention in the 80's.

[blunttech]

That's not how it is... The fucked in the head skinny blondes with self esteem issues think they have to drive the biggest damn car on the road.

no shit. My first wife was like this. thats why shes my ex wife

[jhowell]

Congrats! My (almost) 3 year old has been turning wrenches and helping wash the cars for the better part of this year.

My vote is a touring with a rack and trailer if necessary. Ha ha - actually we have a CRV we love, but with more kids I know wifey will want something else so we're diggin' the Sienna/Odyssey whatever swagga wagga you like.