1-Series M Coupe

[southgabimmer]

disappointing.

watch BMW turn around and say, "Haha, vee ver just kidding. vee made it 2600 pounds, and stuffed sie m3 v8 tooned to 500hp, in it!!!:p"
"but, vee still like fat polish women!"

[87e30]

if it weighs more than 31000lbs im not interested.

i test drove a 2010 mx5 yesterday. damn that thing is fun. so tiny. so lightweight. 2600lbs. very peppy, even for 150hp. i cant imagine what the original 2200lb NA miatas feel like.

My dad has an 07, that has 170 hp 2.0 liter so I'm guessing the 10 has at least 170hp.

But you're right, they are a blast. I just prefer the airy inside feel of older box cars like the e30. Driving the mx-5 with the top up is definitely not as fun.

[87e30]

Thats funny, MINI doesn't seem to have a problem building 2700lb cars and turning a hansom profits on each and every one. I wonder if BMW's product planning people have a fat chick fetish?

Yes I know BMW makes MINI and that it's a bit more premium than a typical economy car, however people expect more from a new BMW. I don't think that's a fair comparison.

But you have a good point, the mini seems to be what a lot of people here are after, just FWD.

[nrubenstein]

i want to see how a skilled driver in an e30M will rate the 1Mcoupe on the same course.

The 1'er will be faster, duh. It'll also be numb and it will overheat.

...it might be slower in limp mode, though.

Really, though, I would not own a car with the N54. That engine has been a nightmare reliability wise, and BMW completely ruined it with recent software updates that added massive turbo lag.

[bataangpinoy]

The 1'er will be faster, duh. It'll also be numb and it will overheat.

...it might be slower in limp mode, though.

Really, though, I would not own a car with the N54. That engine has been a nightmare reliability wise, and BMW completely ruined it with recent software updates that added massive turbo lag.

i dont care about faster. i want to see how he/she would compare the driving feel.

[rThor432]

i want to see how he/she would compare the driving feel.

If you have driven any BMW since the E30, you already know the answer to this question. Especially if you have driven E36's and E46's-- BMW builds their cars consistently more and more numb with the average consumer in mind. You can easily see from driving these how the progression has gone. Actually, if you drive a 2002 and then drive an E30 you could say the same thing about the E30..

[bataangpinoy]

i have not pushed any other bmw's but e30s. the only e36 i had to drive was to a residence down the street from my uncle's home, and i didnt like it.

[BeirBrennerE30]

screw the turbo 4... I want the M3 v8 in that thing. Would trade 135 in for it. But if it still has an n54 why the hell would I want to upgrade????

[Philo]

A few things touched on in this thread.

1. I wish minis were RWD. That is the only thing holding me back.
2. The new 1 series-M seems to be a weak M car built for someone who looks like this:

3. I owned an E36 before my E30. There is a reason I went backwards. BMW continues to eliminate the driver aspect and feel from their cars.