VW to BMW... a step up?

[KennyT]

Seriously? Well thank god this discussion isn't about reliability. I mean, when would the reliability argument need to come up when comparing old bmws to newer VWs....
The only "creature comfort" I miss in my e30 is ac, but that is by choice, mainly b/c I have two other cars I can drive when it's hot. That being said, I drove the e30 to V@V this year and it was awesome. With the 4.10 it was revving high, but I wouldn't have traded that drive with any of my other cars. My car isn't too low, it isn't too slow, it isn't shredded inside, and everything is tight. the 6 hour drive was one of the best, most relaxing, and enjoyable treks I have ever been on. Sunroof down, windows down, rears popped @ 80mph in the summertime, there is no better feeling. If your e30 is dialed in for what you want from it, and it is solid, there should be no complaints. You won't pull off the visors when folding them down like in a vw.

This.

[delatlanta1281]

is not the about reliability. gti=civic, e30=240 its just in euro not jdm..lol..

Seriously? Well thank god this discussion isn't about reliability. I mean, when would the reliability argument need to come up when comparing old bmws to newer VWs....
The only "creature comfort" I miss in my e30 is ac, but that is by choice, mainly b/c I have two other cars I can drive when it's hot. That being said, I drove the e30 to V@V this year and it was awesome. With the 4.10 it was revving high, but I wouldn't have traded that drive with any of my other cars. My car isn't too low, it isn't too slow, it isn't shredded inside, and everything is tight. the 6 hour drive was one of the best, most relaxing, and enjoyable treks I have ever been on. Sunroof open, windows down, rears popped @ 80mph in the summertime, there is no better feeling. If your e30 is dialed in for what you want from it, and it is solid, there should be no complaints. You won't pull off the visors when folding them down like in a vw.

[TopOfTheLine89]

After my e30 caught fire I had to replace it with whatever cheap cool euro was available and that happened to be a mk2 gti 8v. The vw feels much more nimble and under-steers less then my e30. It weighs much less and is more fun to toss around and power through turns with. Loved my e30 and will get another I'm sure. I feel way more confident entering turns in the gti even though the suspension is new and stock vs. my e30 suspension (bilsteins and vogtland). As far as ride quality BMW hands down and is obviously built way better with a real fuel injection system. Would hate to drive the gti on a long trip(revs 3300 at 65) but would drive a e30 to California no problem. Miss drifting and rwd feel though.

[Hey_You]

Okay...here is my take in it. 87 GTi 8v 1.8L was awesome in the corners, and felt more go-kart'ish. The engine was actually a little more high strung so it was a bit quicker as well. 85 318i has been a lot of fun to drive despite being more gutless, but hell, if I wanted speed I would buy another bike. Both engines are right about tank status, and both earn the same grade in power...at F+, but I think the BMW is a bit nicer to DD than the GTi. Just my 2 cents with comparable 1980's base model Euro's

[Cabriolet]

My first can I bought was a 1991 vw Cabriolet (hence my user name) I had more fun driving and abusing that car that I've ever had in my bmw. sure it was slower and less power. If you get a Wolfsburg edition like mine, not one made in Mexico, it has 4 wheel independent suspension. It was MK1.5(yes pain in the ass to get parts for). But ya I could off road it while playing airsoft and i didn’t give a crap, I would drift it in the windy hills and go nuts in the snow. My current bmw is so low I can put chains on it, fells heavy as crap in the windy hills and can only be on smooth pavement. so it may be freaking awesome to look and but i miss my cabby a lot. Sold it because everyone called me gay for owning it.

[BrooklynMW]

I used to be a VW nut, and I'm still a fan. In my opinion, the original Beetle is the most unique car of all time. I was searching for a MkII Scirocco for a year when something in my head just snapped, and I switched my search to an e30. In less than a month, I had my car.

My e30 is the most reliable car I've ever had. Never breaks down, always starts, looks and sounds great, and all the eletricals work. I wouldn't have been able to get the same level of reliability from a Scirocco.

My mom had a scirocco when I was a kid. I remember riding in the back seat one night when it was pooring rain, and suddenly the wipers stopped working. Back then this car was only a few years old.

VW has made some great classics, but lately they've gone downhill and gotten pretty generic. The new Golf/GTI's are nice, but I just saw the 2011 Jetta on the road yesterday and it's the most boring looking car I've ever seen. Seriously. A Corolla would kick it's ass. and that's sad.

[daniel]

I gave my friend with a dialed and stanced VW that he has 5 times as much time and money into it then my car

wut

[jasonsnoddy]

i kind of want to own a mk1 someday, but not to drive. ill just take out the suspension and let it sit in my driveway, pan on the ground.

[Dude]

VW = Fun to look at
BMW = Fun to drive



but for real. I gave my friend with a dialed and stanced VW that he has 5 times as much time and money into it then my car, but one little sideways and some turns and he hated his car.

[Massive Lee]

Anybody who drove a VW would easily understand that even a 25 year old BMW is a step up... Period. The VR6 jetta used to be sold as an e36 contender. Just as a BMW, only cheaper. Yeah. Sure. The VR6 has some go, down the revs, but the car has no handling at all. Another POS.

[daniel]

[e30e]

is not the about reliability. Gti=civic, e30=240 its just in euro not jdm..lol..

wtf?

[Danny]

mr. vang. lol.

[mr.vang]

Put in a better way. A way that makes sense. Hondas are super reliable, VW's have never been.

is not the about reliability. gti=civic, e30=240 its just in euro not jdm..lol..

[e30e]

lets put it this way, vw is like a honda and bmw is like a nissan.

How, Honda makes reliable vehicles that have gotten so stale but are very reliable while remaining a small company; VW makes unreliable cars that used to have cool designs but have gotten stale while trying to become the next toyota. Nissan/bmw seriously? When BMW starts using CVT transmissions that are made at the same plant as Chrysler then I can totally see it.