VW to BMW... a step up?

[delatlanta1281]

lets put it this way, vw is like a honda and bmw is like a nissan.

Put in a better way. A way that makes sense. Hondas are super reliable, VW's have never been.

[mr.vang]

lets put it this way, vw is like a honda and bmw is like a nissan.

[e30e]

VW is German GM to me, cheap parts, a lot of interchangeability and shitty reliability.


BUTTTTTT going from a mkIII or newer down to an e30 is not a step up; I love the e30 but a more modern car regardless of make is not a step down from a e30 from a basic transportation stand point in the mind of most drivers.

[HarryPotter]

I have a VW as a daily, and an e30 as a toy. The VW is way less reliable than the e30, and it's a 2002 jetta.

I don't doubt that one bit. All my friends have mark 4's and they are pos.

[delatlanta1281]

I have a VW as a daily, and an e30 as a toy. The VW is way less reliable than the e30, and it's a 2002 jetta.

[HarryPotter]

The new jetta starts at 15k here in EMARICA!

[M42Power]

You're wrong on both accounts. VW is the European equivalent to what Honda is in the US. I'm not trying to talk shit, it's the truth. They're meant to be the economical, lower-cost choice for a good all-around dependable car. BMW is a luxury/sports car brand. Trying to compare the two is just silly, because they aren't in the same market.

Yes, VW makes/has made a few luxury models (Phaeton, CC), but overall, they are a German Honda. Even the lowest, stripped down current/recent base-model BMW is still considered a luxury German car.

Vw here is not really accessible. They are always the most expensive of their class, along with Audi's and seats (Vw owned brands) and like BMW they are more expensive and do not come with half the equipment.

Guess that's what you pay for quality. So very often Golfs, A3's and 1 series hatches get compared for being in the same level and price range, and on with the other elements of the big german brands.(A4, 3 series, jettas, A6, 5 series, passats and on)

Atleast that's what happens here, vw has lost their car of the pepole pricing a long time ago.

[Schwarz325]

as long as you don't use the same mods you would on a vw, you're good. :D

[einstein57]

I used to daily VW's. MKII and MKIV. But i realized i wanted a trunk, sound insulation, and a car that would take me to work everyday instead of being in for repairs every other month. There is no comparison in the quality of parts of a BMW to a VW. There is a reason the cars costed twice as much new and it wasn't branding.

[Strelok]

re: nascar driving experience

I drove at Texas Motor Speedway a few years back with Dale Jarrett Racing Experience, and it was defiantly worth the cash.

[HarryPotter]

sweet

[consemated]

driving experience

re: nascar driving experience

I drove at Texas Motor Speedway a few years back with Dale Jarrett Racing Experience, and it was defiantly worth the cash.

[Fusion]

This

The major one is using the throttle as a progressive calibration tool rather than an a simple on/off switch.

and I like GTi's and some VW stuff, but the brand names tell it all.

Volkswagen = People's Car
BMW = Bayern Motor Works

Unarguable facts.

[Anguz]

remember that VW started the 'hot hatch' generation
and thats pretty epic..

[8380 Labs]

Come to autocross in my region. There is a team of MkI VW's out of Eugene, Oregon that will stomp the SHIT out of everything on the course, regardless of drivetrain configuration. These cars consistently put down faster lap times that anything that comes out to play, and they're FWD.

I LOVE RWD. But briveline configuration doesn't mean SHIT when you've got the skills these guys have.

so what you are saying is there's a small percentage of drivers out there who are so good they can overcome a FWD car's inherent design/dynamic deficit.

if you then put them in the RWD car, they would do that much better than they did in the FWD. the conversation is cars and you're talking drivers.