VW to BMW... a step up?

[7pilot]

VW =Valuable Wallet.
BMW = Busted Mutherf' Wallet.

I was pretty sturdy VW punter until a Buddy let me Autox his E30 M3....

I did occasionally get fed up with the front wheel scrabble and steering fight of a sporty front drive VW.

One can get pretty good at pedalling a Front drive VW, but once you step into a BMW you realize that you were missing certain aspects of car control and the overall driving experience..

The major one is using the throttle as a progressive calibration tool rather than an a simple on/off switch.

So for someone who gets off on the experience of operating a car and using its controls no matter the speed, etc, it is a step up.


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[325ix]

Like josh said, apples and oranges.

But since BMW builds to a different standard, in a way it is a step up.

Then again, it depends a "step up" in what?

I totally agree. I would say it could be considered a step up if you get a leather interior and lots of options. FWD to RWD could be a step up if it's something you've never have and now want it.

[Stephen]

Like josh said, apples and oranges.

But since BMW builds to a different standard, in a way it is a step up.

Then again, it depends a "step up" in what?

[AC Nico]

i work at VW / Audi and BMW is a big step up.

[Jand3rson]

Fuck no, VW's are fucking gay.

























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[Bglad]

Well I have a VR6 jetta, and I hate it with a passion. yeah it's tourqey and fun to get on it, but thats where it ends. I heart my E30.


Any one want a vr6 mk4 jetta?

[jasonsnoddy]

You're wrong on both accounts. VW is the European equivalent to what Honda is in the US. I'm not trying to talk shit, it's the truth. They're meant to be the economical, lower-cost choice for a good all-around dependable car. BMW is a luxury/sports car brand. Trying to compare the two is just silly, because they aren't in the same market.

Yes, VW makes/has made a few luxury models (Phaeton, CC), but overall, they are a German Honda. Even the lowest, stripped down current/recent base-model BMW is still considered a luxury German car.

i totally understand and agree, its just that here in the US the vw community is known for doing some pretty wacky things no?

im not talking about what they are meant to be,im talking about what people use them for.

from what ive seen a local bimmer guy is more likely to go to the track then paint his rims orange ya know?

[Jand3rson]

when i'm driving my e30, i get more thumbs up or waves from v dub drivers than i do bimmer drivers. i would say as a whole, the vw seen is much more passionate about euros in general, that the typical bimmer driver. (i see a lot more modded vw than bimmers)

That's been pretty much my experience, too. I consider myself an exception to that, as I'm in love with ALL euro cars, but BMW is where my heart is.

[call me jack]

when i'm driving my e30, i get more thumbs up or waves from v dub drivers than i do bimmer drivers. i would say as a whole, the vw seen is much more passionate about euros in general, that the typical bimmer driver. (i see a lot more modded vw than bimmers)

[Jand3rson]

vw = form over function

bmw = function over form

at least thats how i percieve the two. yes obviously this isnt even close to being one hundred percent true, but generally i think it makes sense.

You're wrong on both accounts. VW is the European equivalent to what Honda is in the US. I'm not trying to talk shit, it's the truth. They're meant to be the economical, lower-cost choice for a good all-around dependable car. BMW is a luxury/sports car brand. Trying to compare the two is just silly, because they aren't in the same market.

Yes, VW makes/has made a few luxury models (Phaeton, CC), but overall, they are a German Honda. Even the lowest, stripped down current/recent base-model BMW is still considered a luxury German car.

[jasonsnoddy]

vw = form over function

bmw = function over form

at least thats how i percieve the two. yes obviously this isnt even close to being one hundred percent true, but generally i think it makes sense.

[Jand3rson]

Vr6 pulls harder yea but try to sling that shit around a corner. E30 = PWND!

Come to autocross in my region. There is a team of MkI VW's out of Eugene, Oregon that will stomp the SHIT out of everything on the course, regardless of drivetrain configuration. These cars consistently put down faster lap times that anything that comes out to play, and they're FWD.

I LOVE RWD. But briveline configuration doesn't mean SHIT when you've got the skills these guys have.

[Jon325i]

VR6 pulls harder(in stock form)

Got to admit they sound nice with tuned exhaust. But yeah, FWD to RWD = new driving dynamics.

[ak-]

when i used to own a VW, i would go out to Bimmer meets and some guys would tell me i need to step up to a BMW. i know they are two different driving experiences seeing as how bmw is rear drive and VW is front drive.
anyone her have a VW as a daily and a bmw as a toy? Or visa versa?
How does a 12 valve Vr6 feel in comparison to an M20?

Lol.

[Vtec?lol]

Vr6 pulls harder yea but try to sling that shit around a corner. E30 = PWND!