s50 2002tii

[Justin B]

The popular engine is now the S14 into an '02.

Its a nice engine to swap in, people do do it and there is plenty of power, not quite as heavy, high revving and all that but I have to disagree that its the 'popular' engine. In the last few years I have heard of a few S14 swaps being done, mostly by people that have plenty of money and nice cars to begin with :P It is much cheaper, and can be just as much fun to put an M20 in the 02 but to make it easier a little sawzall and grinder work has to be done to fit the radiator further forward. My point is though I have been creeping along with an M20 swap for (too long) and started when on the forum I go to (bmw2002faq.com) there was so little information on the swap (toadfly was useless) that I could count on one hand how many people had started/completed the swap and posted there with knowledge. In the recent months so many M20 swappers have been jumping on the bandwagon its becoming hardly uncommon to hear something about that swap. I still rarely ever hear anything about an S14 swap.

Oh and why butcher a really nice 02? Especially a Nice Tii, im not a purist but hope thats a joke. Get an average or crappy standard one and fix it up if it has to be great. There really arent many unmolested good condition 02s out there. Im not gonna stop ya but I know of people who would flip :)

This is what Im putting my m20 into, its a POS right now but hopefully will look decent by the time im done with it. It'll sure be fast I know that ;p (Yes I need to find some rather large wheels maybe 0et) I removed the suspension sandblasted and painted it all. If you're wondering about the paint it used to be a BMWCCA racer way back.


I wouldnt even take my un-perfect other 02 which is also pretty bad but not quite so bad and put an M20 into it. I got this one for free actually.

[DEV0 E30]

Terry Sayther Auto has a kick ass take on it.
Aka Jordan's candy shop.

http://www.terrysaytherauto.com/Franken2002.htm

S50, E36 Suspension (basically an E36 with an 02 body) Full cage.

Oh that's hot. I'd actually like to know what it's current progress is.. Jordan?

[Hatchman]

[quote="Justin B"]

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POS? its beautiful

[kylebes1]

As I said we already have the s50 in the shop.

I am going to email Terry and get some info if possible.

ours is going to be more 2002tii than a mut. Upgrade the brakes and stuff as much as possible but keep the 2002 the same. also it will proably look like any other. Sleeper.

[Ryan Stewart]

That is going to be hilariously fun once its finished. Modern suspension in a tiny ass car with a chassis made rigid by a cage.

This may shock some but I would have to agree with the S14 remark from Avi. Since its a light chassis it would probably mate really well with a peaky motor, the 4 banger might fit a bit better, and the original car is a 4 so its a bit more 'true'. Im sure the only thing keeping it from being common is the cost of the motor.

[deejayrock]

2002tii swap

In my own opinion and probably other fellow 02ers, I think if your going to do that swap you should get another 2002, something preferably non-tii and do the swap. The reason I say this is because 2002tii's are rare and very much a collectible. If your Tii was busted looking maybe I would say do it, but man your car is in GREAT condition. In the end it's your car and your going to do with it what you want, just my .02


-1975 BMW 2002
-1989 BMW 325is

[kylebes1]

I agree. A regular2002 will be easier to find any way.

[shanghai]

every year there is a 02 meet at lime rock you can see all kinds of wild02 some with m20 and s14

[Il Duce]

i saw a 2002 the other day, it was badged "///M2"

im assuming it was an s14 2002, sounded like one!

[blunttech]

im in the process of an s14 02. it doesnt look like much yet but im mocking up the drivetrain before i dismantle it for bodywork and paint. the drivetrains all done and powder coated. all the shit work is done. im just waiting till fall to send it off for paint and body. i hope to have it as my daily for next summer.

[trboblu74tii]

Re: s50 2002tii

that's just crazy... way too much weight up front...
i know an s14 swap is koo...but the m10 is the only motor that belongs in the 02's.... So much cheaper to rebuilt and build up. vs. the s14 the super dupper money pit...
Just my 02 cents..

[Bimmerfanatik]

Re: s50 2002tii

that's just crazy... way too much weight up front...
i know an s14 swap is koo...but the m10 is the only motor that belongs in the 02's.... So much cheaper to rebuilt and build up. vs. the s14 the super dupper money pit...
Just my 02 cents..

S14's are way too expensive. Unless you're trying to restore or build an E30 M3 with one...forget it. Not worth the money.

I'd do an M20, just because. Heck, even an e motor. Hmm...for some reason I seem to be getting all excited over 02's lately.

[Stu]

Re: s50 2002tii

that's just crazy... way too much weight up front...
i know an s14 swap is koo...but the m10 is the only motor that belongs in the 02's.... So much cheaper to rebuilt and build up. vs. the s14 the super dupper money pit...
Just my 02 cents..

S14's are way too expensive. Unless you're trying to restore or build an E30 M3 with one...forget it. Not worth the money.

I'd do an M20, just because. Heck, even an e motor. Hmm...for some reason I seem to be getting all excited over 02's lately.

The S14 all but belongs in the 2002. The 2800 pound E30 M3 is too heavy (in daily driven form) for the 2.3L. It absolutely screams in a 2100 pound 2002. Killer swap--yes, S14's are expensive but it is worthwhile in the right 2002.

to this day I fondly remember riding home from elementary school w/ my 2 brothers and a friend in dads 2002...wiping the floor with a new C4 corvette at a stoplight, 8300 rpm screamed the S14.

[Ryan Stewart]

Yeah that motor was best for a race prepped M3 which is probably a lot like a street legal 02. It would be superlight and stupid fast. Its power/weight with a stock 2.3 would be in the E46 M3 ballpark (just a bit worse) but since it weights over a grand less it would be a blast.


Do the Evo engine and think Ariel Atom....

[oh2fly]

m20 in a 2002

so has someone put a m20 into a 2002?

Yes....someone did. Waaaay back in the day (circa early 1990s), there was a short story in European Car mag on a guy who dropped an M20 into an '02. He was a figher jet test pilot by trade and tinkered with cars and whatnot as a hobby. I remember how methodical this guy was in every detail of the swap.....really, really clean. Sadly about a year or so later this guy was killed while testing a new jet for the millitary.

Jon

Actually that car had a s38 big 6 M6 motor in it. Ray Korman did it. Then Ray took it to an autocross and busted the shifter right out of the gate. End of day! That was a tight fitting front heavy but blisteringly fast car! There are lots of both m20 engined and s14 engined 2002s running around now.