Cayman handling vs e30

[priapism]

I have both. Nice as an E30 is, it just doesn't have the chassis rigidity to keep up with a Cayman even if all the right stuff were bolted on. It was designed with a much lower power output in mind.

That being said, a well-driven E30 will beat a poorly driven exotic all day long. I passed a Viper that didn't know how to drive at one track school and kept a Z06 in sight for a while until they red flagged the session.

[noid]

What good is more power going to do? I thick handling is where this needs to go.

Same reason why a new 70k z06 can set lap times faster then 200k+ exotics?


Mind you though the difference between this scenario and yours is that the z06 has wide ass wheels and decent rigidity.

Thus

1. Roll fenders
2. Much larger tires
3. Front, back and underbrace
4. Atleast a euro s50b32, s54, m62b46, etc.
5. Bigger brakes, and stiffer suspension
6...
7...
8. Profit????

[Brandon12V]

Guys, it's a bare bones stock Cayman. You're giving it more credit than it deserves. They make 265bhp and weigh over 3100lbs. I don't see what the big fuss is about. It might have a better suspension setup, but our cars aren't complete shit here. An s50 e30 with proper coils, bigger brakes, and 225's shouldn't have any problem keeping up with it. Now if this was a Cayman S or Cayman R, you'll be eating dust all day.

[Kershaw]

it's not going to happen.

it's not just having coilovers, its the entire suspension design that is archaic in the e30s. giving you the same power to weight ratio will help a lot too, ie turbo.

you'd need strut bars, front and rear, and a bolt in cage for added chassis rigidity. e30s are not complete shit. they are better than a lot of cars out there, they are pretty high tech 80s german engineering. but caymans are high tech modern german engineering.

[havand]

If my s50 was new, i would uave a better power to weight ratio. Considering it is probably tired, it is similar. It honestly felt about as quick as my e30. Peopple with s50s always xomplain about traction. Except for nailing it in 1st, i really dont. People must run some shitty tires or my engine is crap. Sorry about punctuation. Sent from my phone.

[Jean]

I eat them for breakfast with my tractor engine.

[leegf]

might be a repost, but this is a $500 LeMons 318is giving much more expensive and modern cars a serious run for their money at a porsche track day. on street tires. advanced run group, so not exactly n00bs either.

[leegf]

My e30 leans pretty good with bilstein sports and h&r sports.

curious what kind of front and rear sway bars you have?

[Massimo]

I think you would do alright with some fender fares from Eurostop giving you 10' wide rims and around the 275 tire size. Very Stiff GC coilovers with the extra rubber the car will lean more so stiff springs are a must. Also bigger brakes for the bigger tires.

Then make the car as light as possable, after that it is really just a matter of getting more power if you are really serious and have the money I would go a turbo M42 they are the lightest engine and give a better weight balance plus you can push 300hp with some forged pistons and probably 400hp with some new conrods.

[Kershaw]

an m42 out accelerating an m50 in a straight line? and just slowly losing to 911s?

somethings not right.

[Jean]

H&R sports are tooooo soft anyways.

[havand]

A turbo? Im not a fan of turbos because im afraid itll kick out the backend unexpectedly i understand what your saying though

[Holland]

Guys, it's a bare bones stock Cayman. You're giving it more credit than it deserves. They make 265bhp and weigh over 3100lbs. I don't see what the big fuss is about. It might have a better suspension setup, but our cars aren't complete shit here. An s50 e30 with proper coils, bigger brakes, and 225's shouldn't have any problem keeping up with it. Now if this was a Cayman S or Cayman R, you'll be eating dust all day.

I honestly agree, yes the cayman may have new and fancy suspension, but when it comes down to it it really isn't superman. Both cars have 4 tires, and the heavier car will lose grip sooner, it's pretty simple. The cayman may have a better setup as to not agitate the car, but a tire will always have it's physical limit of grip whether it be a Porsche, or a Geo. I think a well sorted suspension, similar power to weight, and competent driver being the largest factor will be more than enough to suffice. Getting to know your car is the largest deciding factor, and guess what? I believe the E30 driver will typically be the better driver because the E30 teaches the driver, as that Porsche, just kind of does things for it's driver without really teaching him.

[havand]

I will say, the cayman was pretty easy to drive. Didnt get to the limit, so cant comment about that.

[DTM190]

Nut behind the wheel is the most important component by far,

Riley had no prob getting past a Cayman in his 1uz V8 E30

http://youtu.be/Ad79wsLdle4