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  • ApexGoblin
    E30 Modder
    • Jun 2011
    • 888

    #1

    m20 or m42?

    ok so i have a 91 318is with the 1.8l 4cyl m42 motor in it, i also have a m20b25 motor and trans that i bought. my goals for the car are around 300hp when its all said and done. this said i have read both m20's and m42's can achieve this hp range (if i was turboing a m20 i would do a Frankenstein with build with 2.7 lower and 'i' head). so with that in mind that I have both engine options, its really just which one should i invest the money into?

    considering:
    -money needed to achieve desired result
    -power to weight ratio
    -reliability (as it will be on the street with occasional canyon running and track days)
    -etc.

    any opinions would greatly help!

    apexgoblin - versteht nicht jeder. Ist auch besser so!
  • acolella76
    R3VLimited
    • Apr 2010
    • 2950

    #2
    The 318is is already a bit lighter and has better weight distribution due to the smaller motor. It would also be better do not do the 2.7i thing, it really doesn't make that much of a difference I don't think. Just boost the engine you already have rather than have the headache of swapping motors
    -Alex

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    • Dozyproductions
      R3V Elite
      • Jan 2007
      • 4682

      #3
      sr20det swap?

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      • ApexGoblin
        E30 Modder
        • Jun 2011
        • 888

        #4
        Originally posted by Dozyproductions
        sr20det swap?
        lol nahh im too much of a bmw lover to do that... maybe if i had multiple e30's :P but i was thinking more rb26det though

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        • mr2peak
          R3VLimited
          • Aug 2008
          • 2388

          #5
          m20 will take less boost to reach that goal, less boost usually equals better reliability.
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          • Dj Buttchug
            R3V OG
            • Jun 2010
            • 7633

            #6
            m42 is also more expensive to boost.

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            • jaye30
              E30 Addict
              • Feb 2009
              • 561

              #7
              Originally posted by acolella76
              The 318is is already a bit lighter and has better weight distribution due to the smaller motor. It would also be better do not do the 2.7i thing, it really doesn't make that much of a difference I don't think. Just boost the engine you already have rather than have the headache of swapping motors

              you dont know what your talking about. clearly you have not ridden in a stroked m20

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              • mikeedler
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2004
                • 6707

                #8
                Originally posted by acolella76
                The 318is is already a bit lighter and has better weight distribution due to the smaller motor. It would also be better do not do the 2.7i thing, it really doesn't make that much of a difference I don't think. Just boost the engine you already have rather than have the headache of swapping motors
                there is a 50hp difference right from the beginning before you would even turbo the motor. of course you will get more power out of a 2.7l displacement. the sound of the M20 alone is reason enough to swap to it!

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                • gearheadE30
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 3734

                  #9
                  More displacement will almost always be easier to make more power from. You'd have to seriously build the M42 to get in that range. That said, I'm a proponent of the M42 and have a turbo one myself.

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                  • Dozyproductions
                    R3V Elite
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 4682

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ApexGoblin
                    ok so i have a 91 318is with the 1.8l 4cyl m42 motor in it, i also have a m20b25 motor and trans that i bought. my goals for the car are around 300hp when its all said and done. this said i have read both m20's and m42's can achieve this hp range (if i was turboing a m20 i would do a Frankenstein with build with 2.7 lower and 'i' head). so with that in mind that I have both engine options, its really just which one should i invest the money into?

                    considering:
                    -money needed to achieve desired result
                    -power to weight ratio
                    -reliability (as it will be on the street with occasional canyon running and track days)
                    -etc.

                    any opinions would greatly help!
                    dude, do you know camacho? I'm the one that got him in his e30 that he drives :D

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                    • blueapplesoda
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 1904

                      #11
                      DO the m42. More HP per PSI (in essence, i understand PSI =/= HP in many cases) if you know what you are doing. DOHC flows better than SOHC.

                      I love the simplicity of turbo m20s, but m42 are fantastic alternatives if you know how to build/tune your engine for boost.

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                      • AndrewBird
                        The Mad Scientist
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 11892

                        #12
                        I'd say the M20 purely on the fact that you can build it while still driving the car. Spread the spending out so it isn't such a big dent to the checkbook, then just drop it in on a weekend when it is ready.

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                        • acolella76
                          R3VLimited
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2950

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jaye30
                          you dont know what your talking about. clearly you have not ridden in a stroked m20
                          Oh, not only have I ridden in a car with a stroked m20, i own one!

                          Originally posted by mikeedler
                          there is a 50hp difference right from the beginning before you would even turbo the motor. of course you will get more power out of a 2.7l displacement. the sound of the M20 alone is reason enough to swap to it!
                          What I meant was the difference in hp between boosted 2.7i and boosted m20b25 is not going to be that much to justify spending the extra money on a new bottom end.
                          -Alex

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                          • BMC227
                            E30 Addict
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 448

                            #14
                            M42 is gay, go M20 because parts are much cheaper.
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                            • Pantless Spency
                              It's McRib time!!!
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 7284

                              #15
                              just get a boosted m42 or an m20.

                              anddddd sr engines< rb engines :)

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