Talk me out of it: Mustang GT 5.0

[Nsquared97]

Your right. American cars are so of the most reliable cars out there and as far as mustangs go they out handle everything. They also hold there value so well it is incredible.

Who are you?

I meant the Challenger sorry. Although I don't think for one second that the camaro is ugly. Shit It's a badass car if you ask me, your the first person I've heard say it's ugly..

I'll be the third to say it, IMO the new Camaro is hideous. After driving both a V6 and V8 I disliked them even more, the interiors feel like they are out of a toy and you can't see a damn thing out of them. I will say that they both sounded great, but that's about the only thing I liked.

[Dave McLaren]

I bet back in the 80's BMW techs bitched about how crappy and junky the E30 was.

Actually, no. They were happy that that BMW wasn't cranking out half-ass federalized cars with thermal reactors that clogged up, heads that cracked and so on. The '80s, at least before the 750, were a time of peace.

Then the '90s came and things returned to normal. ;- )

[TheTacoMan]

Who are you?



I'll be the third to say it, IMO the new Camaro is hideous. After driving both a V6 and V8 I disliked them even more, the interiors feel like they are out of a toy and you can't see a damn thing out of them. I will say that they both sounded great, but that's about the only thing I liked.

[trackjunkie21]

Your right. American cars are so of the most reliable cars out there and as far as mustangs go they out handle everything. They also hold there value so well it is incredible.

LOL don't even start, I'm not a ford fan at all but BMW hasn't put out anything worthwhile either, n54/n55 engines eating fuel pumps like it's nothing and a bunch of other stupid recalls. As far as resale goes, BMW isn't high on the list either. No one is putting a gun to your head to say ALL American cars handle well. Stop being ignorant at the fact that the Mustang is an actual bang for the buck.

[5spoke]

My dad has a new mustang and I just recently bought an e90 and was considering a 135. The 135 is an awesome and is built like a bmw. It does have some issues associated with its HPFP and other common problems but you would probably be getting a CPO or one with factory warranty still left. Its fast, its got excellent build quality and materials.

The mustang exhaust sounds sweet and they have really improved the styling, but to me it was so freaking big for not having much space inside. The hood is really long and the car just feels like a boat, doesn't necessarily drive like one, but it feels huge. The doors are really tall and its hard to see out of. The mustang has had its fair share of issues as well, my dad has been back and forth to the dealer a few times in the past couple months of ownership.

In the end, just decide what you would be more happy with. Mustangs are a dime a dozen around here and you will get more respect from other enthusiasts in a 135. Typically the 135 is a car for drivers who sought it out because of its performance, where the mustangs are every southern testosterone filled teenagers dream so all many drivers know is "its loud, its got a v8 and I am the best driver on earth".

But in the end who gives a shit what other people think or stereotype you as. Just get the car you want and drive the shit out of it.

[IronJoe]

LOL don't even start, I'm not a ford fan at all but BMW hasn't put out anything worthwhile either, n54/n55 engines eating fuel pumps like it's nothing and a bunch of other stupid recalls. As far as resale goes, BMW isn't high on the list either. No one is putting a gun to your head to say ALL American cars handle well. Stop being ignorant at the fact that the Mustang is an actual bang for the buck.

At least BMW is doing recalls.

The mustang exhaust sounds sweet and they have really improved the styling, but to me it was so freaking big for not having much space inside. The hood is really long and the car just feels like a boat, doesn't necessarily drive like one, but it feels huge. The doors are really tall and its hard to see out of. The mustang has had its fair share of issues as well, my dad has been back and forth to the dealer a few times in the past couple months of ownership.

Yeah they are big, but they're the smallest of the "modern muscle" cars. My GTO had tons of power and was fast everywhere, but man did it feel HUGE.

[madman23]

Mustang Boss 302!!

[trackjunkie21]

At least BMW is doing recalls.

Really? I don't see any recalls for the shitty cooling system that always goes bad, airbags that would deploy on their own and numerous other stupid faults. BMW isn't the company to be talking about having an awesome recall history.

[IronJoe]

I am comparing your HPFP example directly to Ford's handling of the new 5.0 6-speed. Read my earlier post regarding the new MT-82 transmission.

The 5.0 isn't a good value if you can't drive the car, that's all I'm saying.

[10Toes]

It woudn't be a Ford with out a transmission problem.

[Nsquared97]

But in the end who gives a shit what other people think or stereotype you as. Just get the car you want and drive the shit out of it.

This is really all we need in this thread. If you get what YOU want, but worry about what everyone else thinks, you will never truly be happy with your car.

[Massimo]

FORD

Fast Only Rolling Downhill
Found On Road Dead
Fix Or Repair Daily
Flip Over Read Directions
Fork Over Repair Dough
Fatally Obese Redneck Driver
Fixed Or Repaired Daily
Flipped Over Roadside Disaster
Flipping Over Results in Death
Fords Only Run Downhill
Forgot Our Recommended Defaults
Found Outside Refuse Dump
Found Outside Rotting Dump
Fumes and Odors Readily Detectable
Funky Old Rebuilt Dodge
Funny Old Rattling Dump
Driver Returns On Foot
Famous Odor Resistant Dog
Fantastically Orgasmic Realistic Dream
Features O.J. and Ron's DNA
Finally Obsolete Racing Device
First On Recall Day
First On Rust and Deterioration
Flight Operations Requirement Document
Flipped Over and Rebuilt Dodge
Follow Our Ruddy Dogsled
Found On Roadside, Dead


BMW

Bayerische Motoren Werke
Big Money Works
Bavarian Motor Works
Beastly Monstrous Wonder
Beautiful Masterpieces on Wheels
Beautiful Mechanical Wonder
Born Moderately Wealthy
Bought My Wife
Bimbette Motor Weapon
Breaks Most Wrenches
Bring Many Wrenches
Brings More Women
Bad Mannered Wankers
Bandwidth Management Workshop
Barclay Mapworks, Inc.
Bayerische Müllwagen
Bayerisher Mist Wagen

[gkobez]

Big Money Wasters

[MR.LUGO]

I don't like the style of the 1 series.