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  • mrgraphics
    Wrencher
    • Dec 2011
    • 221

    #1

    New Owner needs help restoring E30

    Hello - I've now owned my 1986 325es for a little under a month. I've fixed almost everything that was wrong with it, except I have one nagging problem. Hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction to get this girl back on the road.

    Car will start and run fine every time when cold, but as soon as it hits operating temperature (temp needle about half way) it stalls and won't start until it is cold again. There is no fan fare, it just stops abruptly.

    What I've done so far:

    Replaced fuel pump and filter
    Replaced ECU
    Replaced coolant temp sensor
    Replaced coil
    Replaced relays
    Replaced fuses
    Replaced spark plugs

    Diagnostics when it stalls out and won't start:
    Verified I still have fuel pressure
    Verified that I still have 12V+ going to the coil on key ignition

    Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
  • AndrewBird
    The Mad Scientist
    • Oct 2003
    • 11892

    #2
    Possibly a bad cold start valve sticking open? #7 seen here:

    http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...59&hg=11&fg=40

    Try unplugging it when warm and see if it runs.

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    • mikeedler
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2004
      • 6707

      #3
      fuel pump? the motor part of the pump might be overheating and then stopping. I had a E21 that did that too.

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      • AirplaneBuilder
        E30 Modder
        • Aug 2010
        • 823

        #4
        simple, get a 24v

        oh and welcome to R3V!


        1989 Zinno 325i S50 ZF320

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        • mrgraphics
          Wrencher
          • Dec 2011
          • 221

          #5
          NitroRustlerDriver, I tried that before but after it had already died. Once it dies it won't start. I'll try it again running and see if it still dies.

          mikeedler, I've already replaced the fuel pump. Plus when it dies, I still have plenty of fuel.

          AirplaneBuilder, what's a 24v? I'm somewhat mechanical, but by no means a mechanic.

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          • blunttech
            Forum Sponsor
            • Jul 2004
            • 12850

            #6
            test Crank position sensor
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            • Roysneon
              R3V Elite
              • Apr 2010
              • 4505

              #7
              W24v is a 24 valve DOHC engine found in E36s, E46, etc. It is a popular swap to perform on E30s for a more modern, powerful powerplant.

              I don't think that's really what you are looking for, however. Welcome to r3vlimited and good luck with the diagnostics.
              For all things 24v, check out Markert Motorworks!
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              • mrgraphics
                Wrencher
                • Dec 2011
                • 221

                #8
                Would the crank position sensor stall the engine when it's already running? I could see how it would stop it from starting.

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                • blunttech
                  Forum Sponsor
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 12850

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mrgraphics
                  Would the crank position sensor stall the engine when it's already running? I could see how it would stop it from starting.
                  Yes it would
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                  • mrgraphics
                    Wrencher
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 221

                    #10
                    OK - I'll give it a shot. I've read where even if the ohms test ok, the sensor may be going bad. So I'll have to swing by the Pick-n-Pull.

                    Any e30 crankshaft position sensor will work right? Mine has two since it's an es, so do I scavenge two sensors from two different cars?

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                    • blunttech
                      Forum Sponsor
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 12850

                      #11
                      Edit note I's are diff

                      they are both the same so you need 2 if you are replacing both
                      from 9/85 12 14 1 710 668
                      find these on
                      325e
                      528e
                      M5
                      thru 8/85 12 14 1 708 618
                      find these on
                      325e
                      528e thru 11/86

                      Originally posted by mrgraphics
                      OK - I'll give it a shot. I've read where even if the ohms test ok, the sensor may be going bad. So I'll have to swing by the Pick-n-Pull.

                      Any e30 crankshaft position sensor will work right? Mine has two since it's an es, so do I scavenge two sensors from two different cars?
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                      • mrgraphics
                        Wrencher
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 221

                        #12
                        I don't mean to be dense, but I cannot for the life of me locate the sensors. I just can't see them, and the bentley's black and white pictures are so poor that the image makes no sense to me.

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                        • bernzpeed
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3917

                          #13
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                          • blunttech
                            Forum Sponsor
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 12850

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mrgraphics
                            I don't mean to be dense, but I cannot for the life of me locate the sensors. I just can't see them, and the bentley's black and white pictures are so poor that the image makes no sense to me.
                            they are on the bell housing.. 2 right next to each other.. Jack the car up and get under there.. Youll see them
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                            • lurenz
                              Noobie
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 2

                              #15
                              I would say fuel pump relay or key ignition troubles, but I see you already checked on...

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