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    Well, now that I'm home from work, and I've had time to read this thread, I feel a few things need to be said.

    Firstly, in the court of public opinion, I've been found guilty. There is very little if anything that could be said to sway the opinions of those who have made up their minds. If I had a better explanation or more details on what took place, I would provide them. As I don't, I'm left with what I know.

    Second, I'm well aware of the security that PP has built-in, and how much it has increased. There were a lot of things I did wrong. If the perpetrator had access to my PP account, they likely had access to my email, as well. I immediately changed my Google password following the incident, and have changed it regularly since. If the person responsible had been following this thread and saw the amount that had been accumulated so far, not to mention knew of me and knew my activity, they would likely have been able to breach more than just my PP account. My Google password wasn't very secure, either... My suspicion is that as things were changed in my PP account, emails were intercepted and deleted before I had the chance to view them, then the email changed so any further notifications didn't even get to me. It might sound crazy, but it's the only thing I can think of.

    Furthermore, people have asked why the person didn't go after my lines of credit and or other assets. I don't have any. I have crap credit to begin with, so I don't have credit cards with large balances on them, nor have I ever had much money in the bank. So there wasn't really anything for them to go after. Whoever did it knew how much I had in PayPal, and waited for the right time to start removing it.

    Beyond that, I have little else to say on the matter. I can't change the minds of those that have condemned me, and I understand that. I also for the record, have not and will not take anything said in this thread personally, nor will I try to debate or argue with anyone. This is a hole I dug myself. I am pathologically incapable of asking for help when I make a mistake, and this time, it's bitten me worse than ever. Instead of coming out with it, I tried to bury it in my own head, and look where it's gotten me.

    I will be doing everything in my power to try and fix this situation and make it right. As a gesture of good faith to Yan and the community, I am sending Yan the measly sum of $25 to start with, just what I have in my account. From here on, whether it means getting a list of everyone who donated and refunding them one by one until it's all back in their hands, or my plans of doing Teespring/Kickstarter/Gofundme/sticker sales to raise money for Yan, I will make sure this is someday rectified. I can't apologize large enough to the members of this community for such a transgression, and can only hope to try and rebuild my reputation. All I can say is, I'm sorry. Good god, I'm sorry.

    - Josh
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      Next time, we use kickstarter or some other more secure fund.
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        YAN is the one (still) that deserves the money and should be paid, not the we the donators. That was (is) the whole point of this thread.

        Josh, perhaps a new thread chronicling the fulfillment of the debt would be a good thing.

        To all the others bashing Josh, i'm sure you guys have never fucked up before, right? Your time will come.
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          I'm only out $10 in this so it is w/e to me.

          Originally posted by James Crivellone View Post
          Name calling, insults, and other things will not be tolerated.. they are not going to help the matter and everybody deserves a chance to right a wrong.
          Josh is a stand up and damn nice guy. Ya we don't agree on a lot of things but he's a good family man. Back when this happened I knew 3 other people that got hacked that year. paypal has since upper their security. So people giving him shit need to realize a lot has changed in 4 years.
          I know josh will make it right and I hope he will be returned to an admin. He is a good guy and I'll vouch for him any day.

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            So what does Yan think about this whole debacle or is he just out of the e30 scene all together

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              Originally posted by Dirty325ix View Post
              So what does Yan think about this whole debacle or is he just out of the e30 scene all together

              This went from bad to worse. At the end, there was a fudiciary responsibilty to the donors. I'm really shocked this was kept a secret for years. Mods, Josh, Yan....seriously, I am just blown away from people I thought would have known better.

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                Originally posted by Jand3rson View Post
                Second, I'm well aware of the security that PP has built-in, and how much it has increased. There were a lot of things I did wrong. If the perpetrator had access to my PP account, they likely had access to my email, as well. I immediately changed my Google password following the incident, and have changed it regularly since. If the person responsible had been following this thread and saw the amount that had been accumulated so far, not to mention knew of me and knew my activity, they would likely have been able to breach more than just my PP account. My Google password wasn't very secure, either... My suspicion is that as things were changed in my PP account, emails were intercepted and deleted before I had the chance to view them, then the email changed so any further notifications didn't even get to me. It might sound crazy, but it's the only thing I can think of.
                Makes sense.

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                  Originally posted by Javier h View Post
                  This went from bad to worse. At the end, there was a fudiciary responsibilty to the donors. I'm really shocked this was kept a secret for years. Mods, Josh, Yan....seriously, I am just blown away from people I thought would have known better.

                  Kept secret? This is the first anyone has heard of it.
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                    Josh, do you have the email/physical address that the money was sent to? If R3v can find a house with a rock in front of it, I'm sure we can turn up something here too.

                    Might be a start. (A screen caps of the fund transfers might go a long way toward clearing this up too.)

                    If there are any future fund raisers, can we let Blunt be in charge of the money? Since he's the closest thing we have to a community "elder" on here. (I mean that in a good way Steve)
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                      Originally posted by george graves View Post
                      Josh, do you have the email/physical address that the money was sent to? If R3v can find a house with a rock in front of it, I'm sure we can turn up something here too.

                      Might be a start. (A screen caps of the fund transfers might go a long way toward clearing this up too.)

                      If there are any future fund raisers, can we let Blunt be in charge of the money? Since he's the closest thing we have to a community "elder" on here. (I mean that in a good way Steve)

                      I think Josh conveniently "deleted" his paypal account after he was "hacked". I wonder what email address he was accepting funds through when the fundraiser went down, versus what email he is accepting funds through now?

                      If Josh could provide screen shots, then we might also be able to get a total amount fundraised, which I'd wager is significantly larger than the $2000 that people are throwing around.

                      Too many questions, I know, but it's imperative that we know the truth. There is key information that (I believe) is being withheld from us. I don't think we have all the facts to bestow proper judgement, which in my opinion, is a good thing.

                      I have a hunch.




                      Edit: Not trying to crucify Josh, just want fairness. Also, I've always secretly wanted to be a lawyer.
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                        I'm not out for some sort of public crucifixion - I'd just like to know the guy who the funds were raised for didn't get screwed twice over. How the funds were lost doesn't really matter, as the end result and the consequences are the same.

                        When Vlad was exposed to the community as a fraud, the administrators of this forum were the only ones with the balls to do something about it and hold him accountable; to my knowledge none of the other forums took any meaningful action.

                        The same appears to be happening again, and I appreciate the way this situation's being handled.

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                          this thread was from a really long time ago. i consider myself a man of principle and integrity beyond all means. however, i have to say reading this is like watching an episode of the kardashians. i.e.: its turned into too much of a reality show, thus i find myself not giving a fuck.

                          let this shit rest please.
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                            Screen shot some evidence.

                            how MUCH was actually raised?
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                              Just under $2000, I can't remember the exact amount.

                              I swear on my life, it was no higher, no matter what phreshkid presumes.

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                                So this is why this thread is being bumped. Poor Yan. I never understood his decision to ship his car to Vlad for a simple paint job. His car has had work done on it in several different states. Perhaps because he's in the military? I assumed Yan got his car fixed but just stayed away perhaps due to the initial ordeal but that did strike me as odd. Now it makes perfect sense. Josh, you really should have come clean when it happened. You probably would have had more support than you do now.
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