The YAN-3 Fund.

[ThatOneEuroE30]

Maybe vlad did it.

[bmwcarnute30]

I don't expect anything, I know how it looks, which is one of the major reasons I didn't ever bring it up again, which was a mistake.

All I can do is own it.

i believe you. its happened to me. alot of money gone in an instant. i would definitely give paypal another call and ask to speak with a supervisor. they can check the ip used to transfer the money and track who the money was sent to.

[delatlanta1281]

There's $2,000 of donated money that the community put trust in you for. How do 60+ days go by where you don't check up on it? If this was a job, you'd be terminated instantly whatever the excuse.

Wrong, there would be a series of performance reviews and actions to make sure this didn't happen again.
Josh, I can review your performance if you would like... up until this update stellar. in the future I suggest more transparency. if not, you may be written up.

[garagewelt]

At the end of the day, this is the internet. We should leave real life stuff where they belong, like real life.

[mbonder]

Wow, damn shame how this ended up.

JAnderson, you were responsible for the funds, you should make it right, pull the money from your own pocket.

[Dirty325ix]

It was all a donation he doesn't have to do shit with it....coulda thrown a 2000$ Crack party for all I care

[DEV0 E30]

Wow.

If I recall correctly I messaged you and/or Matt or created a thread right after I read Yan's thread stating what had happened. I don't recall, it was a LONG time ago.

It was by chance that I read his thread moments after he posted it. I felt sick to my stomach and acted immediately - I brought it to attention to the people that run the site to make sure something was done, starting with banning Vlad. I was disgusted then, and this is how the story ends? Very upsetting. If Yan had decided to use the money for his honeymoon, that was completely up to him, it was for him. The way this has ended up, it's less than unlucky, it's bad.

Paypal is smart and dangerous because of how easily it will pull funds from any particular way that is accessed in the account to pay for something. It makes embezzlement easy, but that doesn't make it any less serious or wrong. Using a personal account for something like this is pretty much the worst idea ever, not going to lie. It would have been very easy to not know what was what if the account was used for anything BUT a receiving only account for the purpose it was meant for. If you had one card/account linked to the account or made one payment with the account the ethics of the situation would not be in your favor.

To break into a paypal account, you're going to need more than just the password. Paypal, even then required another factor to login to an account from a new computer.

We live in the information age, I'm consistently amazed at people when they think they can use weak methods to secure anything they care about. Or no methods at all. Do the minimum to protect things, the bare minimum.

There's $2,000 of donated money that the community put trust in you for. How do 60+ days go by where you don't check up on it? If this was a job, you'd be terminated instantly whatever the excuse.
And, three years?! The story would have much less more doubt if you brought this to the attention of the community during time it happened. It's $2k!

What was the account's email changed to before you closed it? Wouldn't you need email confirmation to do that(something you didn't have anymore because it was changed)?
I'm confused.

I'll echo everything that Abz has said.

I don't expect anything, I know how it looks, which is one of the major reasons I didn't ever bring it up again, which was a mistake.

All I can do is own it.

If this was simply a horrendous mistake, waiting as said simply means we're looking at the situation through an aged and dusty looking glass. AKA it looks like shit. I have a few principles in life, one is if something happens that affects someone else, you own up to it as soon as possible. Waiting does not help. Owning something does not mean waiting years to trickle truth it.

A good thing about a terrible situation turned into a terrible thing itself. I guess that's how it ends.

[e30austin]

Wow.

[ThatOneEuroE30]

Shit happens guys. It's like all you guys got pitch forks and axes and are on your way to lynch janderson. I've been hacked many times I know how that shit goes.

[bmwcarnute30]

Shit happens guys. It's like all you guys got pitch forks and axes and are on your way to lynch janderson. I've been hacked many times I know how that shit goes.

this

[EN318isPDX]

Never trust a stranger on the internet. More so if you are on r3v.

[2mAn]

that sucks. I think waiting so long to reveal what happened with the funds really makes it suspicious, but not to the point of lynching.

The R3V detectives may have been able to do something about it when it was fresh but at this point its just an embarrassing moment for Josh.

Now we know the end of the story at least. Not all stories have happy endings. Shit happens, life goes on and Yan's car still has a shitty paint job.

[Shock(/\)ave]

I can't believe how many of you are just shrugging your shoulders and completely letting Josh off without any responsibility for this.

Personal responsibility should mean something to anyone with integrity. If you take on the responsibility of collecting and caring for money from everyone, you should damned well ensure it gets where it should.

Why did the money sit in the account long enough for it to be siphoned away to begin with? It should have immediately been transferred, not held for months without any due diligence.

I do understand things happen and forgiveness is important, but Josh needs to feel some pain for this huge mistake and especially for completely covering it up from everyone for so long.

I don't expect anything, I know how it looks, which is one of the major reasons I didn't ever bring it up again, which was a mistake.

All I can do is own it.

Then own it. Send the guy a perfect glass moonroof or some other insanely rare part(s) out of your own pocket Josh. It doesn't have to be worth the full $2,000, but do something to show you're serious. Talk, at this point, isn't worth a damn.

[Stanley Rockafella]

clearly enough people who contributed to this "fund" have enough $$ that they can give it away with little or no care where it ends up.

anything at this point to rectify the situation is simply for entertainment purposes.

[Wschnitz]

Its not this easy to get "hacked" and paypal sucks but they still investigate claims. This is fishy as fuck.