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    I love how most people bringing the torches and pitchforks to Josh's public lynching and being the most vocal about it all are noobs/very inactive members. That likely had nothing to do with this, donated or know any party invloved in anyway shape or form.... Now that shit is going down give the man a chance to make it right. FFS

    Yes it should have been handled differently form the get go, or at the very least come out much sooner than this.

    All this said Josh has been good to this community and a integral part of it for as long as I have been here (since this place had less than 4500 members) . Lets not forget that and let him fix his tarnished name in a manner of his choice. He is an adult and has many means at his disposal to rectify the situation let him do it the way that best fits his situation.

    LOL season pass at a ski resort = rich hahahahaha I know people that done have a pot to piss in, but save all the extra money and side job cash all year long so they can buy their pass to the mountain in Oct when its cheaper...
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      Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
      I love how most people bringing the torches and pitchforks to Josh's public lynching and being the most vocal about it all are noobs/very inactive members. That likely had nothing to do with this, donated or know any party invloved in anyway shape or form.... Now that shit is going down give the man a chance to make it right. FFS

      Yes it should have been handled differently form the get go, or at the very least come out much sooner than this.

      All this said Josh has been good to this community and a integral part of it for as long as I have been here (since this place had less than 4500 members) . Lets not forget that and let him fix his tarnished name in a manner of his choice. He is an adult and has many means at his disposal to rectify the situation let him do it the way that best fits his situation.

      LOL season pass at a ski resort = rich hahahahaha I know people that done have a pot to piss in, but save all the extra money and side job cash all year long so they can buy their pass to the mountain in Oct when its cheaper...
      couldnt say it better myself


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        This thread is fucking ridiculous.
        It was fucking ridiculous when it a started and it's more fucking reddiculous now.
        If you're going togive your friend your car to look after, and while it's parked in his garage someone breaks in and steals it from him, 3 years later are you going to demand your friend pays for a new car?
        No. Not unless you're a shitty friend.

        Janderson is an idiot for not saying anything about this, but he was going out of his way to try and to do something good for the community, and if he can show the money was in fact stolen from him, there should be no expectation for him to replace it from his own pocket.

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          Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
          I love how most people bringing the torches and pitchforks to Josh's public lynching and being the most vocal about it all are noobs/very inactive members. That likely had nothing to do with this, donated or know any party invloved in anyway shape or form.... Now that shit is going down give the man a chance to make it right. FFS
          This is dumb. Until Yan chimes in on the matter you all need to shut up. Half of the people posting have nothing to do with this/have nothing better to do right now then stick their noses into something they have no involvement with. Smh

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            i was a lurker when all that shit with Vlad went down and i remember it even getting onto jalopnik. i feel for Yan and Vlad is a shit head. even though Josh didnt tell us right away what happened to the funds, he still told us and didnt run away like a little bitch, like some of the for sale section scammers we have had (heated seat insert guy is at the top of my head) if he outright stole it, he would not be here, period. he handled it wrong. ive been in a similar situation you feel like shit, and wish you could snap your fingers and fix it, i hate to see us all bashing on him, when he is working on fixing it. he has been here,probably 4x as long and some of you guys hating on him right now.

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              Not sure if foul play was involved or not after reading all this. Perhaps just poor management or judgement. Either way way Josh who started out with the best intentions, is now being punished for his mistakes. Really sucks when you try do something good for a indivisual, and end up comming out as the goat. He stepped up to help a fellow forum member, who he may have never even met in person, and I think in his haste to help, did not plan accordingly. Mistakes in life are rarely free and its a good lesson for everyone, not least of which is Josh. I have no doubt he will step up to the plate and make things right. If it is an honest mistake I feel for him, and hopefully his wife is understanding about it. I know mine would not be happy, as something like this effects an entire household. I think if it were revealed sooner it would have helped to alleviate the cloud of suspicion, and without questioning from the communtiy, which really is the biggest mistake. Money can be replenished more easly than reputations. I really think this thread has been exhausted at this point, and ought to be locked by the mods until their is a worthy update, as all it has become is a witchhunt at this point.

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                I can't remember if I donated or not, I did post about it but my PP history only goes back to 2012. I may have sent it from an old account but I can't remember.

                Anyway, been watching this unfold, and have restrained from posting so far and glad I did.

                Foul play or not, Josh is still actively posting and appears to be trying to make it right. I don't know his motives, but his current efforts should be enough for everyone to back off and see where he goes with it.
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                Anyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.

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                  unless you are yan, janderson, or the people who run r3v, you really have no business posting in this "keeping up with the kardashians" thread. perhaps if you donated money, you have some say....otherwise, why stir the pot? this doesn't have anything to do with all of you lynchmobbers.
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                    Hey guys,

                    I apologize for my absence and lack of forum activity over the last few years. I got married and now have a baby on the way  so more time has been dedicated to the family of late. There are some things I want to say however.

                    First and foremost, from the bottom of my heart I want to thank everyone and anyone who donated and wanted to help out. Guys, to this day, I am greatly thankful for this gesture that r3v showed for me.

                    I could never ask for a penny from anyone of you and always felt very guilty asking for the money from Josh. I was not entitled to it and just felt wrong even mentioning it. I did however a few times reach out and try to get the names of members who donated.

                    I wanted to make a decal with everyone’s name on it who donated to put on the M3 as a way of saying thank you. I figured it was the least I could do to honor those who helped out. I still want to thank you all for helping out and I DO want to create a decal or some sort of representation of everyone who gave.

                    Having said that, and when I found out that the money was gone, I felt terrible, not for myself, but for all those that meant to help out and wanted to show support. In a way I feel that I may be guilty for not staying on top of it, but I just always felt very guilty asking or even talking about the money that was donated.

                    Over the last few years and more recently I have gotten a lot of texts, PMs, Facebook messages and emails asking about my M3 and if I still had the car. I am happy to say that I still have the car. She currently is sitting on jack stands, waiting for nicer, warmer weather to have an oil change and a front brake sensor wire replaced. I try to block out the paint job and enjoy the car and the memories I had in it.

                    So here is what I know and what I can say with confidence. I love my e30 M3. I understand and rationalize that if I were to sell my M3 (to get over it) and try to get another one and build it up again, that I would a) never be able to afford to do this again, and b) it would never have the same emotions attached to it. I experienced so much with that car, from my times when I was stationed in Germany and in the states.

                    I appreciate all of you and your support through all this mess that took place with my M3. I have no idea who the majority of you guys are, and you guys don’t know me, but you all still supported me and showed me love. That alone is worth so much to me. Thank you.

                    Lastly I want to say a word about Josh. We have been texting back and forth the last few days and Josh’s heart is in the right place. He really seems to have accepted to correct what he feels needs to be. I cannot ask for anything and will not ask for anything except for your support.

                    I do NOT want Josh and his reputation to get tarnished by this. We all have made mistakes and were given chances to correct them. Please, please, please let’s not attack Josh or his character.

                    If there is anything I can do please let me know.

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                      Congrats on the marriage and kid! Thanks for your input, and I'm glad you still have the car and aren't letting the donation fiasco get between you and the community. It's really great that you're able to look at the situation, understand that Josh made a mistake, and then not pile blame onto him as if it was intentional. Also congrats on the super bowl, that interception was BS. But hey, i got food and beer, so yay sportz!

                      Originally posted by rob-redm View Post
                      Make sure you send the first $2000 you lost first to the guy... before asking others to donate again... really... some nerve..
                      Originally posted by rob-redm View Post
                      to bad he spends 90% of time on this website.. than looking after the donation $$$$... If I were in his shoes. I would be doing everything in my power to replace the $2000 lost...
                      Originally posted by rob-redm View Post
                      actions are stronger than words, you'll regain my respect after you clean up the mess you made.
                      Who the fuck are you and why the fuck are you even in this thread? YOU WEREN'T EVEN A MEMBER, YOU DIDN'T DONATE, YOU HAVE NO HORSE IN THIS RACE. Why the hell would he care about regaining the respect of some pissant that jumped onto the crucifixion band wagon to get his "in before lock" comment.

                      That being said, first after Yan. Looks like the thread is over. In before lock. Yadda yadda.
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                        Yan, I never noticed you were in NoVa, this you?

                        Spotted last summer. On 66/495 or something.
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                        Originally posted by MrBurgundy
                        Anyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.

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                          Josh fucked up and is facing up to it and making it right. He may have taken a slightly different path to get to this point than some would but the important thing is hes doing something about it. Many would leave the community and do nothing. Ive done worse things in my early years and have paid a price and learned from it. I think this is Joshs turning point and Im willing to forgive and give the guy the chance he deserves. I really think his heart is in it and we should forgive and make josh prove himself I think he will do right
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                            Yan,

                            I don't know you, but you are always a class act on the forums.

                            Kudos for that.
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                              Originally posted by flyboyx View Post
                              unless you are yan, janderson, or the people who run r3v, you really have no business posting in this "keeping up with the kardashians" thread. perhaps if you donated money, you have some say....otherwise, why stir the pot? this doesn't have anything to do with all of you lynchmobbers.
                              I didn't donate, but I care about the outcome of this fiasco.

                              Forums are online communities. They certainly aren't the same as your real-life social circles, but in some ways, they resemble a social circle. For example, if someone posts that they got into a car accident or have been diagnosed some kind of serious illness, there's at the very least, people that will tsk tsk and offer their sympathies.

                              Why wouldn't this extend to another facet of a community? We have an avid participant of the forums whose integrity is being called into question. Do I care THAT much? No.

                              Regardless, it's a reflection of the dilemmas that face society as a whole. What do we do when there's a moral issue facing us? How people respond is a reflection of that forum.

                              For the most part, this place is run democratically. The constituents of this forum are the forum, for better or for worse. To quell opinions is censorship.

                              There is very little leverage in this situation aside from public cries for an investigation and/or resolution. If you silence the voices, you silence the impetus for an investigation.


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                                Having Yan put in his input.... Lock this thread its a done deal now


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