How I got burned for 410 dollars, and my quest to get it back

[DisgustipatedAP1]

1. People suggested it, no one said they legally had to insure it.
2. That may be true, but it would say so on the tracking (if you didn't get a tracking number FFS it's $.70) that it was at a hub for repackaging.
3. I can type up a note and throw it in a box too, it's the lack of information provided that leaves us questioning it's legitimacy. They just don't sharpie a piece of binder paper and throw it in the box, I'm sure there's some level of formality if they fucked your item up.
4. No shit, I've had several packages inspected, and guess what. They come stamped "INSPECTED" especially with international orders and dealing with customs.
5. Lol not have one available? There's a million at every hub ready to be used. I have never seen an ordinary brown box at a USPS. They do fit, I had the exact same steering wheel shipped and it sure fit. Came fresh as fuck too.
6. You sound like an idiot.

7. You are a chunky, mushmouth bro whose mommy and daddy does everything for him. Try not to call others idiots when you yourself are one. :)

[Rigmaster]

You give 5 reasons why it's not the sellers fault, and go on to tell the OP to take his money back from the seller via a Paypal dispute.

Read it again.


I am NOT taking the seller's side. I am just trying to dispel some of the myths about internet buying and selling. My points were aimed mostly at several replies to the OP, trying to clarify or correct things that were written as "statements" when they had no basis in fact or reality.

I'm surprised no one suggested the OP hire a lawyer or call the FBI since mail fraud is a federal offense- I think they have a special department that handles cases of old BMW parts transactions gone wrong over the internet.


For clarity, let me say that the OP has every right to be pissed, and he should do everything he can to get his money back, and IMHO, the SELLER needs to make this right somehow- BUT, some of the suggestions and ideas in some of these replies are completely worthless.

[dnguyen1963]

Read it again.


I am NOT taking the seller's side. I am just trying to dispel some of the myths about internet buying and selling. My points were aimed mostly at several replies to the OP, trying to clarify or correct things that were written as "statements" when they had no basis in fact or reality.

I'm surprised no one suggested the OP hire a lawyer or call the FBI since mail fraud is a federal offense- I think they have a special department that handles cases of old BMW parts transactions gone wrong over the internet.


For clarity, let me say that the OP has every right to be pissed, and he should do everything he can to get his money back, and IMHO, the SELLER needs to make this right somehow- BUT, some of the suggestions and ideas in some of these replies are completely worthless.

Mail fraud is a federal offense. Yes, you can contact the FBI, but you will be so far down in the totem pole that you'll never hear from them. To hire a lawyer would cost him more $$ with no certainty in the outcome. The seller should refund half the money. Op can then use that money to have his wheel fixed by a shop. Everybody will be happy.

[Rigmaster]

Mail fraud is a federal offense. Yes, you can contact the FBI, but you will be so far down in the totem pole that you'll never hear from them. To hire a lawyer would cost him more $$ with no certainty in the outcome. The seller should refund half the money. Op can then use that money to have his wheel fixed by a shop. Everybody will be happy.

nevermind

[ohthejosh]

Mail fraud is a federal offense. Yes, you can contact the FBI, but you will be so far down in the totem pole that you'll never hear from them. To hire a lawyer would cost him more $$ with no certainty in the outcome. The seller should refund half the money. Op can then use that money to have his wheel fixed by a shop. Everybody will be happy.

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[Fleksta]

This is why I find the idea of shipping insurance to be disgusting. It was obviously run over in the warehouse, mangled in a sorting machine, or dropped under the mail truck. You shouldn't have to buy extra insurance to protect your package from damage inflicted by the business you have entrusted it to. It should be on the USPS (or any shipping company) to accept responsibility for their own screw-up regardless.

That rant aside, the seller had no obligation to buy the insurance. If you had expected him to purchase it, the fault is yours for not asking what his shipping quote included or specifying that insurance was desired. Whether you or I would consider purchasing insurance to be a given is a moot point.

There is no mail fraud here, unless you can prove that the seller willfully sold you a damaged wheel after presenting it as something else. Would I be furious after discovering my $400 purchase in this shape, definitely. But in this case I see no recourse.

[FLG]

Why do people respond without reading the whole thread?

From what we see the seller sent him a mangled wheel and tried to pass it on as their fault.

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[JamesE30]

*edit.

Maybe he died..

[IRON-E]

OT: Alright, I don't know this O'Bryan562 dude, but I would love to motorboat his girls lady lumps.

Apparently the dude, has a sex toys shop in the Inglewood area of California. I will do some homework and get back to you with a phone # or address.
I also hope, for your sake, that you followed everyone's advice and made a paypal claim.

I have been in this seller's position before, and even though I lost my ass and took way to long to make it right, I did.
Sometimes you have to accept your loses, when doing business.

[10Toes]

This thread might be getting better.

[euroshark]

Unrelated question to the wheel, but is those Johnston and Murphy suede Wing tips? And one of the other pictures looks like one of their driving slip-ons. I own two pairs of the drivers and ALMOST bought the Wing tips before saving my coin for the 1850 Beason buckle strap.

Not related at all and I know how you feel about getting fucked for online sales. Bought a MT1 kit and the asshole never shipped it. But shoes and sunglasses are my sick desires =)

It's all so clear now.

[2ean]

I was hoping to come in here and break the case, but that will not happen.
See this photo: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...2&postcount=30

I believe OBryan562 used a stock photo, and not one of the actual steering wheel that was in his hands. Note the similarities (composition and background) of the two photos.

[Bullet Ride]

This guy recovered his fake Nardi steering wheel and sold it to you...

http://youtu.be/SMxB4RpCDzA

[Mr. Burns]

I was hoping to come in here and break the case, but that will not happen.
See this photo: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...2&postcount=30

I believe OBryan562 used a stock photo, and not one of the actual steering wheel that was in his hands. Note the similarities (composition and background) of the two photos.

you're def onto something.

[Kvasi]

Apparently the dude, has a sex toys shop in the Inglewood area of California. I will do some homework and get back to you with a phone # or address.
.

Cruise over to Inglewood and get sextoys worth 400 dollars, problem solved and you happier than ever :)