190e cosworth question

[mrcheezle19]

her and her father dont know its a coswoth and charge me 190e prices. idk she seemed really weirded out that someone would want to buy her car. and like i said what father would let ther daughter drive a cosworth? would you let your daughter drive a m3?

I could actually see this happening, just go into it nonchalant and don't reveal what the car truly is. As long as he's got a replacement on hand for the daughter to drive you could walk away with a steal of a deal.

[CrusherCurtis]

weren't most that were imported auto?

[smonkbmw]

have you seen under the hood? i didnt think any true cosworth cars made it here, i thought they were all badged 2.3 16 valve cars.

[reelizmpro]

Cosworth designed and built the cylinder head. That's as far as their involvement goes on the "2.3-16" 190 but many refer to it as a Cosworth 190 or Cossie.

[crazy80's]

The manual trans is a Getrag 265 C/R Dogleg...like the euro M3.

Correct its actually the same exact tranny in the M3.

Auto was a factory option for the 2.3-16V

Be careful some 190e's were available with a "appearance package" to resemble the Cosworth. Only way to verify if it is indeed a Cosworth is by VIN# or to look under the hood. They also had a lap timer in the center console, Something the regular 190e had no need for.

[reelizmpro]

Just cuz we like pictures...

[Emre]

Correct its actually the same exact tranny in the M3.

It's not really "the same exact tranny" since the bell housing is different and the shift mechanism is on the side rather than the front. You can't just bolt on an M3 tranny.

Be careful some 190e's were available with a "appearance package" to resemble the Cosworth.

That's not true at all. Of course, nothing stops ghetto owners from sticking a 16v body kit on an ordinary 190E. But it was never a factory option.

[KillaCam]

ya im going to make sure im getting the real deal. but so far her father hasnt called. QQ

[crazy80's]

It's not really "the same exact tranny" since the bell housing is different and the shift mechanism is on the side rather than the front. You can't just bolt on an M3 tranny.

You are correct sir, I was referring to the fact that both cars used a "Dog leg getrag" transmission.

That's not true at all. Of course, nothing stops ghetto owners from sticking a 16v body kit on an ordinary 190E. But it was never a factory option.

I was under the belief that later model 190e's (maybe the last years 92-93) were available with "aero dynamics" that resembled the 16V, Minus the 2.3-16V badging of course.

[KillaCam]

i threw some photos up

[Emre]

I was under the belief that later model 190e's (maybe the last years 92-93) were available with "aero dynamics" that resembled the 16V, Minus the 2.3-16V badging of course.

You're thinking of the "Sportline" package. Looks different than the 16v aero kit: sticks out more on the sides and had stock front/rear bumper covers and no rear wing. Also, they were 2-tone.

Sportline



2.3-16

[///schwartzman]

I have an auto 190E 16V, and I'm actually growing to love it... I drive it like a stick though and run it to 6k and it moves quite well. Most people don't know the significance of the car and treat them like the regular 8 valve or 2.6. Hardly anybody remembers Aryton Senna's start as a racer in it, most don't know only @3,800 of them were imported to the US and they cost almost $50k new fully loaded. The car is IMO 400lbs. too heavy, with each front seat weighing 56lbs! Shed some weight, upgrade bushings, sways & springs this car will put a lot of modern cars to shame still.



BTW, the conversion to the Getrag dogleg trans is @$1000-$1200 in parts... The car is definitely worth it if you can find one without a lot of issues for under $5k, remember this was the classic nemesis to the M3 which drew the line for the BMW vs Mercedes rivalry to this day.

[txtorquemade]

I've been looking for a 2.3-16v. Not very common. Pick it up if you can.

[Cliche Guevara]

There's a guy that daily drives one here in Eugene. I've seen it parked a couple times and I've tried very-obviously checking it out to get his attention. No success, though.

[Andy348]

Same story here actually - a girl close by DDs a 190e Cosworth. I've seen it parked numerous times and I'd be tempted to shoot her an offer if the E30 wasn't eating up my bank account as is!