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  • b3albakii
    Advanced Member
    • May 2010
    • 107

    #1

    3.91v lsd

    Today a got an lsd from junk yard with this number 3.91V
    What about it guys.
    What is the difference between 3.91V and S3.91 ?
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  • lambo
    Captain Scene Points
    • Feb 2010
    • 10953

    #2
    The 3.91v is a Viscous-Type LSD from an iX whereas the regular 3.91 is a Clutch-Type LSD from a regular E30.

    Originally posted by SpasticDwarf;n6449866
    Honestly I built it just to have a place to sit and listen to Hotline Bling on repeat.

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    • AndrewBird
      The Mad Scientist
      • Oct 2003
      • 11892

      #3
      Which is preferred?

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      • b3albakii
        Advanced Member
        • May 2010
        • 107

        #4
        Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
        Which is preferred?
        Yes this is what i want to ask
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        • lambo
          Captain Scene Points
          • Feb 2010
          • 10953

          #5
          Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
          Which is preferred?
          I would say clutch type because viscous diff's are typically less efficient.

          Originally posted by SpasticDwarf;n6449866
          Honestly I built it just to have a place to sit and listen to Hotline Bling on repeat.

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          • b3albakii
            Advanced Member
            • May 2010
            • 107

            #6
            So i got a bad choice ?
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            • Wanganstyle
              R3VLimited
              • Apr 2010
              • 2828

              #7
              Originally posted by b3albakii
              So i got a bad choice ?
              honestly its good for a street car if in good shape.

              Clutch type is more aggressive but it really depends on what you are doing with it; also the condition of the unit. Almost all of the used clutch units I tear down are melted; pretty much dead.
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              • lambo
                Captain Scene Points
                • Feb 2010
                • 10953

                #8
                Originally posted by b3albakii
                So i got a bad choice ?
                Not necessarily. It's still better than an open diff. It's just that with sustained loads, I believe they start to lose their limited-slip properties and gradually become open diffs.

                Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though.
                Last edited by lambo; 10-07-2012, 12:54 PM.

                Originally posted by SpasticDwarf;n6449866
                Honestly I built it just to have a place to sit and listen to Hotline Bling on repeat.

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                • Wanganstyle
                  R3VLimited
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2828

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lambo
                  Not neccesarilly. It's still better than an open diff. It's just that with sustained loads, I believe they start to lose their limited-slip properties and gradually become open diffs.

                  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though.

                  yes, if the item has been seriously stressed it will not function as intended - i.e. the VLSD in my miata only locks up when seriously heated up or in the air on the lift.

                  I'd really like to have a fresh clutch LSD in my car but am not able to justify the OS Giken I would like; it costs more than the miata....
                  OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                  Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



                  Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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                  • b3albakii
                    Advanced Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 107

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wanganstyle
                    honestly its good for a street car if in good shape.

                    Clutch type is more aggressive but it really depends on what you are doing with it; also the condition of the unit. Almost all of the used clutch units I tear down are melted; pretty much dead.
                    Well ... Its really good like new
                    Dose it called an lsd ?
                    My engine is M50
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                    • Wanganstyle
                      R3VLimited
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2828

                      #11
                      Test the lock up breakaway, if it will hold the torque then use it :)
                      OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                      Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



                      Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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                      • strang3majik
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 310

                        #12
                        As a viscous clutched diff goes bad they actually lock harder to the point it'll feel like a locker around corners chirping tires and such.

                        Common problem in viscous clutch style transfer cases is they'll lock in 50/50 4wd and they'll actually bind up in turns.

                        When they work they're more comfortable though as they only lock posi when needed allowing all the benefits of an open and a lsd diff.


                        In the snow they'll only spin one wheel though.

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                        • Robotin
                          R3V Elite
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 4471

                          #13
                          i also thought the VLSD's were better because they are a higher locking % because they are meant for AWD.
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                          • LuckyHenriksen
                            R3V Elite
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 4244

                            #14
                            I have a few V4.10s and V3.91s if anyone needs one ;)


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                            • nando
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 34827

                              #15
                              Originally posted by strang3majik
                              As a viscous clutched diff goes bad they actually lock harder to the point it'll feel like a locker around corners chirping tires and such.

                              Common problem in viscous clutch style transfer cases is they'll lock in 50/50 4wd and they'll actually bind up in turns.

                              When they work they're more comfortable though as they only lock posi when needed allowing all the benefits of an open and a lsd diff.


                              In the snow they'll only spin one wheel though.


                              What? No.

                              Also, they usually fail open on ix's, although rear vc failures are fairly rare.

                              I've never noticed the vc's losing effectiveness in extended track driving either.
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