Weakest Points of Porsches?

[canadiankid]

enthusiasts always say, "they arent bad if you keep up on maintenance and do your own work." Glean from that what you will.

[nrubenstein]

The terrible dash layout with the large tach right in the middle? Seems perfect to me.



The parts are more expensive than E30, but if you do your own work its not too bad. The '84-'89 3.2 liter 911 is Motronic just like E30 and very durable and simple.

The gearboxes are slightly unusual and not bulletproof through '86. The 3.2 engine had valve guide issues (wear) but otherwise will go a long time.

Sometimes it can be a little difficult to drive safely with all the flying panties.

The tach and the speedo are about the only part of the dash that you can see from the driver's seat. Those are well located, the rest not so much.

[Threehz]

The tach and the speedo are about the only part of the dash that you can see from the driver's seat. Those are well located, the rest not so much.

What the hell else do you look at when driving?

I've been holding back on revealing the purpose of this thread because it's pretty blasphemous.. I've always wanted a Porsche 911, but never wanted to own a vehicle that requires a lot of expensive maintenance just to enjoy.

But, I've been thinking and hoping that as long as the suspension and body is solid and the problematic areas of these cars are the motors and related systems then it would be perfect to convert to an electric track toy.

So far it sounds like it's a perfect candidate !

[e30rapidic]

the driver that constantly complains is the weak point

[Alpina]

The 996 3.4L engine is full of weakness,,

older engines goes goes goes ,, and goes forever with proper maintenance

[Lof8]

Of course, everyone always talks about how unreliable they are, and you spend Monday through Saturday working on one to drive it on Sunday...

I've never even heard an argument like that before. One of the many reasons Porsche has been so successful in racing is the incredible reliability of their cars.

If you're talking about replacing parts on a 30 year old car, that's going to need to be done no matter what brand is being discussed.

[grippymonkey]

my wife's pop is still rolling in his 76' 911 and it is clocking over 200k now. It still keeps on kickin!

[LJ851]

I've been holding back on revealing the purpose of this thread because it's pretty blasphemous.. I've always wanted a Porsche 911, but never wanted to own a vehicle that requires a lot of expensive maintenance just to enjoy.

But, I've been thinking and hoping that as long as the suspension and body is solid and the problematic areas of these cars are the motors and related systems then it would be perfect to convert to an electric track toy.

So far it sounds like it's a perfect candidate !

LS1 Swap. Lighter than the porsche engine with plenty of power. Try to get '87 or later for the much stronger trans.

One of the many reasons Porsche has been so successful in racing is the incredible reliability of their cars.

If you're talking about replacing parts on a 30 year old car, that's going to need to be done no matter what brand is being discussed.

This is true.

[Threehz]

I have always wondered if the talk I hear about Porsches being unreliable was just the same BS as the talk about old BMWs being unreliable..

How are the 944's? They are more plentiful (at least around here), cheaper, and I do enjoy the look a lot.

[bastianshaw]

I have always wondered if the talk I hear about Porsches being unreliable was just the same BS as the talk about old BMWs being unreliable..

How are the 944's? They are more plentiful (at least around here), cheaper, and I do enjoy the look a lot.

+1 love 944s i think styling wise its the e30s only competition, e30 still wins though:-)

[nrubenstein]

What the hell else do you look at when driving?

I've been holding back on revealing the purpose of this thread because it's pretty blasphemous.. I've always wanted a Porsche 911, but never wanted to own a vehicle that requires a lot of expensive maintenance just to enjoy.

But, I've been thinking and hoping that as long as the suspension and body is solid and the problematic areas of these cars are the motors and related systems then it would be perfect to convert to an electric track toy.

So far it sounds like it's a perfect candidate !

I'd like to be able to see the stereo and hvac controls without having to crane my neck.

[der affe]

944 = torque tube/divorced clutch = big pain in the ass when they fail.

944 are momentum cars and in non turbo form and yawn inspiring, the interiors are usually falling apart from being user maintained and loosing pieces.

911s are nice, but and early 70s car will most likely have some rust issues and those without bring top $. the trans are strong in the 74 and later cars, but the early ones suffer from syncro problems mostly from user abuse with the dogleg trans.

motor wise, with the exception of valve adjustments and oil leaks they are pretty bullet proof. the CIS injection is expensive when things go wrong, but with a properly maintained system, this is not an issue. the "injectors" can not be cleaned very well on a car with a lot of miles so i would suggest you buy a new set of injectors (you will only have to do this once in the life of the car)

914s are pretty cheap and are mid engine. if you are going to strip in and make it a track car this might be your cheapest route. the 4 cyl is pretty weak in stock form but can be built up to a 3.1 IIRC as long as your pockets are deep enough. you could also swap in a flat 6, but having done this, other than the noise, it was really not worth it.

you can also swap in a suberu turbo motor for a more modern motor with cheaper modding abilities and big power while keeping it light weight.

also a lot of the 911 suspension will swap over to the 914.



BEFORE you go day dreaming about your racing glory...............didn't you knock up your GF not too long ago? how are you going to pay for all this with a kid too?

[Buzztt]

Join rennlist and maybe 6speed and read what people who own them have to say

Don't think I've ever read or heard anyone use the words Porsche and unreliable in the same sentence

[Raxe]

oh thats a relay? it has an oil leak... so does your coolant tube, and alternator :D, but seriously though id love to have an 80's 911

Lol coolant tube.

Don't think I've ever read or heard anyone use the words Porsche and unreliable in the same sentence

See: Porsche Cayenne S

[TobyB]

The peckers that drive them.

Otherwise, they're pretty characterful cars. Not Citroen- crazy, but mechanically different enough
to take you back to school.

You like 'em or you don't. I like driving them, but it takes a while to get used to
having all that mass in your ass. As a passenger, they make me barf. Something
about the way they change direction...

Chassis rust is a problem up until a certain point.

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