Spun out in the snow today...

[dannyyisntt]

I wouldn't have taken my car if I knew it was going to snow so hard. Weather report said rain. Go figure ha.
If I hadn't of had my chains we would have been fucked. Just to much unexpected snow.

Were those pictures from the same day when you got all that snow?

[Nick_S]

LOL what does AWD have to do with how will a car will stop.

Friend of mine was rear ended in the snow last year. The driver, a woman who wouldn't get off her phone was baffled how her AWD SUV didn't stop in the snow. She was on 1/2 worn stock all season tires. She was cited for failure to control, the accident and being outside of the kitchen.

I have snows for both cars. My E30 never spun out or felt squirrely in the snow last year. Actually having no traction control and very little in the way of ABS help really helps you get in tune with the car and can feel everything before it gets too out of hand.

[deutschman]

I am A HUGE advocate of the BMWCCA Car Control Clinics.Up here in the NW we have a great group of instructors in our group,many of whom are also e30 enthusiasts.There are many other options to explore your cars abilities and expand your skills as well,such as the P-clubs winter drivers skills training,which is awesome fun btw.
It sounds like deutcshman used the training he learned in the CCC to get himself out of a bad situation,which is the point,knowing what to do when things go bad and getting yourself out of it.
My wife and I have both taken CCCs and P-clubs skills days as students and volunteer our time with the clubs Driving education events.I still say the clubs Car Control Clinic is the best money I have ever spent on a car.
Join us next season and learn how to really get the most out of your car !
http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/track/

Everyone should do it. Especially young drivers.

it will stop better for sure. But even in the ix I won't risk it on regulat tires on ice and snow, it's too dangerous. I've done it in a pinch but sliding through an intersection at 5mph is no fun no matter how many wheels are driven.

with snow tires it's basically an unstoppable BMW snowmobile. so much fun!

My tires were not bald. We're they perfect and new? No. But not bald ether.
I wouldn't have taken my car if I knew it was going to snow so hard. Weather report said rain. Go figure ha.
If I hadn't of had my chains we would have been fucked. Just to much unexpected snow.

As fare as AWD or 4WD cars go, I know they won't stop you much if any faster, but they might help you not get in a spin in the first place. Along with a good set of snow tires.

[deutschman]

[AirplaneBuilder]

Forgot who it was, but I thought I read on here that a RWD car with snow tires will do better than an AWD car with all-seasons. Any truth behind that?

Yes and no. On average, the AWD car will still have more go and be easier to drive (aka, mashing the pedal like a retard won't kick that tail out). On the other hand, the AWD car won't stop for shit on most a/s tires and it won't turn either.

I think AWD can stop faster if you downshift in 2nd or 1st gear depending on how quick your going, when i had my 97 subaru legacy 5 speed it slowed down quicker if i downshifted instead of hitting the abs brakes when i was going 20+mph but as far as going up hill/starting off the AWD beats any front wheel or rear wheel drive hands down. All the suvs you see in ditches is just dumb ass drivers.

[Xat1cZ]

[slammin.e28]

Snow is what I bought the Rover for. All dat snow we get in Va. ALL DAT SNOW.

Seriously though, I did the Tire Rack Street Survival thing a few years back. It's still with me. Hit a slick spot while driving the M3 and it snapped out on me. Brought it right back in line, no thinking, just did it.

Shit is seriously worth the $150.

[slammin.e28]

Wtf double post?

[AndrewBird]

Damn straight! :p

[TobyB]

that a RWD car with snow tires will do better than an AWD car with all-seasons. Any truth behind that?

Some, certainly. If you have an LSD in the rwd, or at least traction control of some sort.
And snows up front do wonders for the braking, too.

On the odd year we get real accumulation, the 2002 with a set of modern snows
can keep up with the real jeeps just fine.

Can't keep the fuggin' windshield clear, tho.

Oddly, a full- locked 4wd can outbrake any 2wd/variablewd in very slippery conditions, slightly.
The rears are locked to the fronts, so all 4 get maximum stopping force, rather than
having just one or 2 locked fronts.
Of course, when all 4 lose traction, then it becomes a bit predictable...

And ABS trumps all, if it's good. Jenn's xi wagon with snows, abs, traction etc is by far
the most capable slippery- surface car we have. And I have a Land Cruzah...

And there are just some times when, no matter how good you are, you suddenly find yourself
as a passenger with a steering wheel to hang onto. Black ice is the toughest...

t

[midwest]

I grew up in and still live in wisconsin.. it can be nice and clear when you go to bed and then you wake up to a foot of snow ontop of ice. I have never had snow tires or chains etc.. have driven front rear and all wheel drive.. all do just as good or poor as you can drive. the only advantage to awd is taking off from a stop or in deep snow. rwd you can steer with the gas and fwd is just kind of neautrel.In the end its 95% driver 5% car.

[nando]

Forgot who it was, but I thought I read on here that a RWD car with snow tires will do better than an AWD car with all-seasons. Any truth behind that?

it will stop better for sure. But even in the ix I won't risk it on regulat tires on ice and snow, it's too dangerous. I've done it in a pinch but sliding through an intersection at 5mph is no fun no matter how many wheels are driven.

with snow tires it's basically an unstoppable BMW snowmobile. so much fun!

[SGT4677]

I am A HUGE advocate of the BMWCCA Car Control Clinics.Up here in the NW we have a great group of instructors in our group,many of whom are also e30 enthusiasts.There are many other options to explore your cars abilities and expand your skills as well,such as the P-clubs winter drivers skills training,which is awesome fun btw.
It sounds like deutcshman used the training he learned in the CCC to get himself out of a bad situation,which is the point,knowing what to do when things go bad and getting yourself out of it.
My wife and I have both taken CCCs and P-clubs skills days as students and volunteer our time with the clubs Driving education events.I still say the clubs Car Control Clinic is the best money I have ever spent on a car.
Join us next season and learn how to really get the most out of your car !

http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/track/

[10Toes]

I speed through the schoolzone near my house to keep my driving skills sharp.

[5Toes]

I speed through the schoolzone near my house to keep my driving skills sharp.