Poll: Can you heel-toe from 2nd to 1st?

[2002maniac]

It's pretty difficult to accelerate hard from a near stop in 2nd in a cammed 318is.

True story :(

[Rob]

er, its pretty hard to accelerate period....in an uncammed 318is....

[e30Matt]

Figured Christian would figure that one out sooner or later. :)

Autocrosses in that thing were hell, I had to downshift to first for any large change of direction at slow speed or it just bogged.

[asubimmer]

well my 318is won't downshift into 1st unless you are going <15mph?

[Mot]

i dunno my m20 is way more effective in 2nd then 1st anways, but then again I actually have tq unlike a 318.

[Streetspec_iS]

yup

[King Luis]

what i was taught is that most cars don't like being shifted into first unless stopped or going really really slow.
so imo, don't do it unless you want to risk screwing something up.
like asubimmer said, under 15mph is when he can put it into first and thats slow in my books. keep it in second.

[Dave]

never really felt the need - I think 2nd gear will pull fine and the time spent trying to rev match would be wasted by me, at least.

[yozsi]

i actually heel-toe every down shift in just regular driving to practice. hell i even mastered clutchless shifting on the street. im too scared to do that in autox tho.

[2002maniac]

well my 318is won't downshift into 1st unless you are going <15mph?

Pivot cone

[BMWguy]

Lightening the flywheel and also using a higher gear ration can help with heel-toeing to first....

I find it pretty easy to do in my m20... but its not moving fast...

besides it IS just as effective to just stay in second for me considering alot of times I can start my car off in second and even third if I want...

[e30 gangsta]

Just clutch kick around the pivot cone in 2nd. No biggie. Shifting into 1st is gonna make you loose time/ put unwanted stress on the car.

[Digitalwave]

Lightening the flywheel and also using a higher gear ration can help with heel-toeing to first....

I find it pretty easy to do in my m20... but its not moving fast...

besides it IS just as effective to just stay in second for me considering alot of times I can start my car off in second and even third if I want...

I think the 2 afforementioned mods would make it even harder to go into first. Its impossible for me to put my car into first while I am moving, but I would never want to anyway. From a stop I start my car in second gear from almost every light and my car pulls hard enough in 2nd gear that as long as I am above 2,000 RPM or so I'd might as well leave it in second.

[asubimmer]

I think this is the first time ever that Rob is loosing the poll :ohsnap:

[DaveInLA]

How many people heel-toe with the heel on the brake? I've never heard of that before this thread!