So long e30 M3s...

[nando]

Yeah, they were just mocking things up to see how it fit!

I can understand wanting some meat with that burger, but if they didn't like some technical aspect of something why not just suggest something helpful rather than piling on the shit? I wouldn't want to post back in that thread either.

I have a lot of respect for M3s and I agree that stock ones will be worth more (or at least with an S14). But that's why I don't think I could ever own one - because once you've done the things that make it match up to more modern performance standards (swaps, modded suspension, aftermarket brakes, etc), you could have done the same thing to any standard E30 for a lot less and ended up with basically the same car, sans body kit and badge.

I also think that eventually, standard E30s will also be tough to find in original condition. I think that's already pretty true - they won't ever be worth as much as M3s, but they will have their own value.

[reelizmpro]

Yeah, that was crazy. Seems they expected much more "tech" in the initial post.

[nando]

Well it's obvious...if you put a V10 in to any car, it will make it fast. I think those guys on CC aren't that impressed and are more concerned about the technical reasons why parts are being used. Seems to be a requirement on that site. Don't think they were hating the swap per se. This was by far my favorite quote...

"This choad licking cumguzzler however...
I commented on his cut/paste as i got curious and visited the websites involved... and discovered identical content to this thread - I wonder how many forums he's posting on - I imagine on the BMW specific forums he's got quite the following of sackriders and autofellators - "Dude that's sweet" "totes amazeballs" "#yolo" and shit like that."

and Terry Fair...don't associate me with this "Blunt" guy.

sure. but, they never gave anyone the chance to respond to any "technical questions". it went pretty much straight from posting some of the early build pictures, to "these guys must be idiots why are they posting on our site". a whole lot of assumptions in 5 pages of nonsense without any real clue what or who they were talking about.

[reelizmpro]

Not quite sure how you can hate on someone putting a v10 in a e30 m3. I mean, if steve took a super low mile show car condition 100% original m3 and tore it up like that, yeah that would be dumb... but thats not the case.

Well it's obvious...if you put a V10 in to any car, it will make it fast. I think those guys on CC aren't that impressed and are more concerned about the technical reasons why parts are being used. Seems to be a requirement on that site. Don't think they were hating the swap per se. This was by far my favorite quote...

"This choad licking cumguzzler however...
I commented on his cut/paste as i got curious and visited the websites involved... and discovered identical content to this thread - I wonder how many forums he's posting on - I imagine on the BMW specific forums he's got quite the following of sackriders and autofellators - "Dude that's sweet" "totes amazeballs" "#yolo" and shit like that."

and Terry Fair...don't associate me with this "Blunt" guy.

I damn near fell out of my chair reading that...haha.

Regarding the M3, at this point...I think they should all be saved regardless. There's a guy on this site who picked up an M3 from Hawaii with rust holes on the body, welded in new material himself and patched everything up. The car looks great today. That was the worst rust on an M3 I had ever seen too but owners are free to do as they wish.

[jhaurimn]

Not quite sure how you can hate on someone putting a v10 in a e30 m3. I mean, if steve took a super low mile show car condition 100% original m3 and tore it up like that, yeah that would be dumb... but thats not the case.

[blunttech]

I think you guys forget that the car is being built for Blunt... the only man in the history of cars who can apex a straight line like no other driver!

as far as I know its not been repeated since. It takes true skill to pull that off

[UNHCLL]

I think you guys forget that the car is being built for Blunt... the only man in the history of cars who can apex a straight line like no other driver!

[blunttech]

you should have seen the hate his V10 swap was getting on corner carvers. wow. it's like they were a couple of high school kids pissing on their lawn or something.. turned into like a 5 page argument/flame war and all JakeB posted was the first few sets of pictures.

lol Bring the tech

[nando]

Well then fuck you. That's not the point of being a car enthusiast and it never has been. There is no room for that sort of attitude in this hobby. The only way to prove you are worthy of owning a classic BMW is to do what the internet tells you.

you should have seen the hate his V10 swap was getting on corner carvers. wow. it's like they were a couple of high school kids pissing on their lawn or something.. turned into like a 5 page argument/flame war and all JakeB posted was the first few sets of pictures.

[Roysneon]

I know Barry I dont "invest" in cars. Just trying to have fun with them

Well then fuck you. That's not the point of being a car enthusiast and it never has been. There is no room for that sort of attitude in this hobby. The only way to prove you are worthy of owning a classic BMW is to do what the internet tells you.

[e30m3s54turbo]

:drink:

[reelizmpro]

You are correct, C&D is not the authority on e30 M3's. However the article was written by Rob Sass, VP of content at Hagerty and THEY ARE the authority on classic car market, being that they insure the majority of them.

I would tend to believe the very people who have been in the BMW e30 scene for decades before a VP who works at one of the companies that offers agreed value policies. You can say your car is worth 100K, it doesn't mean it is or will be. That remains to be seen. IMO, you have to be in the trenches to really know E30's. Know what's valuable and what is not. Know what's going to be and what isn't.

Your condo analogy doesn't apply to the E30 M3 because they are constantly building condos...you can always find them and values go up and down. The E30 M3 on the other hand started with a fixed number 17,xxx produced worldwide and that number has and is diminishing with each day. So owning one is in fact an opportunity. I can build an M3 bodied S50 car any day of the week and it will look and perform exactly the same or better than yours...but I can't build a genuine E30 M3. So wouldn't you say the S14 was a key ingredient??? I would.

So many newer cars are faster than old cars...so what? newer cars are better in almost every aspect and they are supposed to be, yet we still drive E30's for a reason. What is your reason...if I may ask? You want the nostalgic/iconic car without the nostalgic/iconic engine?

[Kevinl]

E30 M3's are slow by modern standards but so are all these muscle cars that sell for big money most run low 15's to high 14's not that far off from a stock e30 m3 and there is no comparison in handling or braking

[LSM3]

There will ALWAYS be more of a market for original cars. That is the case for ALL collectible vehicles. Is there a market for modified cars....YES. You might have to wait a bit longer but you will sell a whatever powered a E30 M3. Will it sell for less....probably. I didn't buy one as an investment. I bought it to BUILD and DRIVE. Putting miles on the cars LOWERS their value. Are you going to not drive it?? If the guy who mods his car does not care, why does anyone else? I guarantee you that people with swapped M3s have just as much fun as stock owners...maybe more? Lol. Really though WHO CARES???? At the end of the day it's metal and rubber. If it means THAT MUCH to you what OTHER people do with THEIR PROPERTY...I feel for you.

[norMcal]

I know Barry I dont "invest" in cars. Just trying to have fun with them

Good point! I didn't mean to imply that I have mine as an investment either. It's just a bonus that the values are rising.