m30b35 vs s52b32.....really

[pandaboo911]

S52 is way more capable than an m30. Also no need to adjust valves. More aftermarket parts, more bolt ons

[Mr. Burns]

Thanks guys, good discussion and points brought up for both.

Personally as it stands now, the m30 sounds tastier...
However the sourness comes out with swap difficulties and needing to continually dial in, tune and sort gremlins.

The ease of the s52 appeals to me much more

[SkiFree]

S52 is way more capable than an m30. Also no need to adjust valves. More aftermarket parts, more bolt ons

Simple question, have you driven both of them in an E30? Its easy to read a a script based off of numbers and internet "justifications". I go more by smiles per mile (a bit harder to quantify).

And the S52 in my opinion is NOT way more "capable" than an M30, whatever "capable" actually means to you.

[pandaboo911]

I'm not going to argue over opinions on which engine is more "fun," that's pointless. I'm talking about facts. The s52 has more potential in stock form, you can dispute that all day. A 30-40 year old design vs a 20 year old design.
My post is based on fact, everyone's opinion will differ. Capable is referring to 12v vs 24v

[F34R]

Drive down, I'll swap my m30 in ;D I'll give you much deal.

[matthugie]

I just came to this thread with one question:


what is better vr6 or 1.8t?

What's better, M20 or M42?

[slammin.e28]

What's better, M20 or M42?

M42 all day.

M20 is a fucking boat anchor, and the boat would still probably float off when the timing belt broke.

[Mr. Burns]

Drive down, I'll swap my m30 in ;D I'll give you much deal.

If srs, pm me with details about your engine or link to build...don't tempt me with the easy ways out I love so dearly :-P

[Wanganstyle]

What engine do you like better?

setup is only as good as the person juggling the corner weight and footwork.

I've had both in original cars as properly setup by bmw. Both are great if setup by BMW

m30b35+g260 (e32 735i-5, e34 535i-5)
s52b32+zf320 (e36 M3/4/5, e36 M3/2/5)

if you like the old school look and sound install the M30
if you like the twin cam look install the s52

[F34R]

If srs, pm me with details about your engine or link to build...don't tempt me with the easy ways out I love so dearly :-P

PM'd

[10Toes]

I've driven two similarly prepared E30's one a well sorted S52 and the other a well sorted M30 swapped car. The M30 was hands down a lot more fun to drive around.

What is so fun about driving a car that falls on its face above 5500 RPM's.

[Mr. Burns]

What engine do you like better?

setup is only as good as the person juggling the corner weight and footwork.

I've had both in original cars as properly setup by bmw. Both are great if setup by BMW

m30b35+g260 (e32 735i-5, e34 535i-5)
s52b32+zf320 (e36 M3/4/5, e36 M3/2/5)

if you like the old school look and sound install the M30
if you like the twin cam look install the s52

I'm neutral on both counts, I've driven neither.

I expected more out of my m52, and feel I really need to wind it up to get what I want.

[E30 Wagen]

Force me to choose between the two and I'd pick the s52.

But if it was my car I'd be content with a m52 or a stroked m20 in a vert. Had a 328i for a while and it was quite fast... can't see why you'd need more than 200hp in just a fun cruiser.

However the swap that I can't stop mulling over is a m54b30 and 6 speed.

[SkiFree]

What is so fun about driving a car that falls on its face above 5500 RPM's.

Have you driven a decently done one? If so you'd answer your own question. As for my answer..... I dunno, it was a lot more fun on the road.

If it was a track only car I'd probably do 24v... but haven't driven a track only s52 E30 so I won't be stupid and hypothesize about something I have no first hand experience with.

[Julien]

I just came to this thread with one question:


what is better vr6 or 1.8t?

Ummm.....Donno if SRS.....

I are serious. emkay four is serious binzness