Modern BMW 3-Series turbo inline-6 power for an older 3-Series

[Wanganstyle]

Forget all that noise.

I'd save a ton of money and get one of these bad boys

http://fordracingparts123.com/crate-engines/ecoboost/2-0l-tivct-engine-m-6007-20tivct/

Super cheap, easy to run stand alone and makes decent power
255hp 270ftlbs in a 355lb package.

I'll be ordering the ecoboost V6 for my OBS ford pickup this summer.
http://fordracingparts123.com/crate-...it-m-6007-35t/

Remember to also order a standalone lol

the ecoboost 4 cylinder full kit is $5850 and requires a standalone computer (not included). Buying the running complete car may be faster and only slightly more money

[nando]

im not familiar with his work but maybe this was just a preliminary setup? possible going to go back and make it right? I mean i might do something like that if i was experimenting with a new swap

yeah, I don't think so.

[mr2peak]

That ford motor is 1/2 of the power of a chipped N55..

[Vtec?lol]

Forget all that noise.

I'd save a ton of money and get one of these bad boys

http://fordracingparts123.com/crate-engines/ecoboost/2-0l-tivct-engine-m-6007-20tivct/

Super cheap, easy to run stand alone and makes decent power
255hp 270ftlbs in a 355lb package.

I'll be ordering the ecoboost V6 for my OBS ford pickup this summer.

http://fordracingparts123.com/crate-engines/ecoboost/3-5l-gtdi-ecoboost-v6-engine-kit-m-6007-35t/

[Northern]

and automatic? ugh.

I don't see why you'd go through that much effort and keep it auto, and yes, what the hell steering wheel?


And on N54 vs N55, everything I've read on the topic has put N54 ahead of N55 as far as available power add-ons, and I saw one dyno with intake, downpipe, water/meth, and JB4 tune that was almost 500whp.

N55 obviously better design/reliability wise, but without turbo replacement, I'm under the impression it isn't as easy to make the same power.

[Wh33lhop]

Hak job or not, he got it done and I want to drive it. Stick and less hack would be nice, but it's cool that he got it to work.

[agent]

Because doing it twice makes so much more sense?

[torreira]

This is quite the hak job...

im not familiar with his work but maybe this was just a preliminary setup? possible going to go back and make it right? I mean i might do something like that if i was experimenting with a new swap

[10Toes]

This is quite the hak job...

[Wanganstyle]

neat, but why? wouldn't it literally be cheaper to just buy an E9x 335i?

and automatic? ugh.

lol at the steering wheel - typical HakkenTT. I also like the smashed strut tower, and god knows what else crap he did to make that all fit together.

His first introduction to hakkkkken swapping was:

A:

Use angle grinder to trim hellical vanos gears on m54 intake camshaft to use as single vanos camshaft

(I'm sure it stays balanced)

B:
re - using the rings from a m54b30 in a m50.




If that wasn't a clear indication of the r3vtalent to come........

[ST1G]

and automatic? ugh.

This.

[nando]

neat, but why? wouldn't it literally be cheaper to just buy an E9x 335i?

and automatic? ugh.

lol at the steering wheel - typical HakkenTT. I also like the smashed strut tower, and god knows what else crap he did to make that all fit together.

[Wanganstyle]

All the information I gathered was from a 1 series forum. Owner weighed the setups and gave the weight difference. Also info on the twin scroll power band vs the laggy twin turbo setup. That is why BMW went to a twin scroll/single turbo. Proven to make the same power with just a single turbo and twin scroll and proven to make a ton of power with a turbo upgrade and running stock management with a tune for the larger components.

N55 is the better engine over the N54, has a better power band, less lag and better economically.

Speculating vs their info you're just shooting from the hip.

That is why supra guys ditch two turbos in favor for a larger single turbo.

I don't think you actually read what I was trying to say: Have you ever touched the parts with your own hands?

****I had a pair of n54 twin turbos and exhaust manifolds on my shelf;
the total weight was not much more than 50 lbs for it all.***

The N54 turbines are very trick; extremely light weight compared to a 2JZ-GTE twin turbo setup

***(the 2j had traditional Iron cast manifold and bolt on iron cast turbochargers; the 2jz-GTE oem setup was about 80 lbs - I purchased 4x used sets to get 1x good pair of twins)***

N54 turbines with integrated hot sides

You can see that the exhaust manifold is actually tubular welded steel with a engineered heat shield



in 2009 I had a car with a 2JZ engine; this is the engine famous in MK4 supra Twin Turbo.
I drove it daily with both Twin turbo and Single turbo; I liked twin turbo (parallel) more than the large single.

[3vilE30]

N55 is the better engine over the N54, has a better power band, less lag and better economically.

Not to mention the n55 is more advanced than the n54. N55 has direct injection and valvetronic while the n54 has neither. The only reason why there aren't many n55's make n54 power is tuning directed injection and valvetronic efficiently.

But we all know the real winner here.... N52>>>
;)

[F34R]

N54 twin turbo manifolds are very light.

They integrate the turbo housing;

Both turbochargers and exhaust manifolds of a n54 probably don't weight much more than 50 lbs.

I've had a set at my place- I'm sure someone has a set hanging out and can just weigh them.

As for power both are great; N54 makes over 450rwhp on stock turbochargers and fuel with downpipes and a boost up / remap


As far as the age old twin vs single turbo debate. ...

Oem twins is killer. I've had the same engine (2JZ) in NA, single turbo, twin turbo.

Parallel Twin turbo is the best all round powerband

All the information I gathered was from a 1 series forum. Owner weighed the setups and gave the weight difference. Also info on the twin scroll power band vs the laggy twin turbo setup. That is why BMW went to a twin scroll/single turbo. Proven to make the same power with just a single turbo and twin scroll and proven to make a ton of power with a turbo upgrade and running stock management with a tune for the larger components.

N55 is the better engine over the N54, has a better power band, less lag and better economically.

Speculating vs their info you're just shooting from the hip.

That is why supra guys ditch two turbos in favor for a larger single turbo.