To all the internet famouse car guys

[MJCRO]

There's definitely a greater sense of elitism now because of social media. I'm a young guy too and I despise going to local car meets or any big car events. I always get the feeling of being surrounded by people who either know nothing about their cars besides their suspension and tire setup, or just those fan boys/gals who are there because they heard about it online. I prefer enjoying my car for myself and occasionally talking to the older gearheads at the local cars and coffee.

[rturbo 930]

Black....

I stand corrected.

[lolcantturn]

Said it once and will say it plenty of times- I don't like cars, I like driving them. You'll never see me at a meet "talking cars."

[rturbo 930]

^Word.

I don't give a flying fuck what mods you have (which is the first thing they tell you, of course). I'm more interested in how it drives, and where it takes me.

[delatlanta1281]

V@V is the best for those that don't want to deal with egos. just hang with a group and have a good time. Doesn't matter who, everyone is nice.

[Liquidity]

The problem is fast & furious. People who never even noticed cars before even though there's millions of them on the road, now all of a sudden they're self-proclaimed car enthusiasts because they saw the movie and realize they can get some attention with a modded car. This has nothing to do with the VW guys although they are pretty bad with their rust, empty roof racks and whatever other hipster "different" thing they can think of.

[dirtbag30]

its a pride thing. the scene described are the type of guys who want to be known as the best. they don't care about driving the car, as long as it looks cool while its going down the road.

although ive never been to a car show, if i went to one i don't doubt i would be drooling over a few rides / talking cars with some guys


EDIT : another thing that gets me is when people have to point out that their car is "static" just so everyone knows how shitty it must be to drive from meet to meet.

[rturbo 930]

EDIT : another thing that gets me is when people have to point out that their car is "static" just so everyone knows how shitty it must be to drive from meet to meet.

I never understood that. So you made your car completely worthless, instead of just putting on bags, which are at least functional? Way to go, dumbass.

[JinormusJ]

To all the internet famouse car guys

I used to go to the local meets around here, but it was mostly the 'tuner' crowd, seemed like a lot of them were pretty immature.

I'm usually up for a meet, but it has to be one of the solid local ones like the Food Truck San Jose meet or Van Nuys. The ones where it's just blowhards and toolbags talking over each other about whose car has what epically suck. Immature people make everything about them and have you leave feeling completely drained. You have to have solid people who show up for "more than just the cars"; they're there to enjoy their time, not "own the scene".
That said, I would have never met some of the friends I've made at meets if I never went

EDIT : another thing that gets me is when people have to point out that their car is "static" just so everyone knows how shitty it must be to drive from meet to meet.

So that I can get labeled as a bag-rider and look like a douche to proper car-driving enthusiasts?

I have the feeling you are missing context, as in: you're referring to people that think their hot-stuff because they ride slammed without bags. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one

[Hooffenstein HD]

Pretty much the entire "stance" culture is everything that's wrong with cars/the internet.

[deutschman]

Most of the people I have come to know through car forums and auto events have been great! Yes there have been a few bad eggs here and there, but over all a very genuine friendly and helpful group of guys and some times a girl or two.
Iv met most of my car friends through helping them work on their cars or them helping my out, and of cores driving events.
I completely agree with many of this guys points especially the built vs. bought issue. I get that not all of us were born to weld and fabricate or even to do an oil change, but when you think your the hottest shit on the forum because you payed some one to do an over priced s52 swap with a wood grain valve cover thats just pathetic.
I also feel like lots of people these days dont get that we build cars to make our selves happy. As soon as there is a build thread where some one doesnt use mesh wheels or some one paints their grill red everyone starts the hate. As long as their not doing a hack job and they love their car let 'em be.

[TurboJake]

I have many things to say about this. But, at the risk of sound pretentiousor hypocritical, this is the biggest one in my head stands out off the bat...

I, genuinely, hoped that my car became famous somehow or in some way. But not for the fame, but for people to talk about a car that's for the most part pure.

It's not special... It's not pretty... It's pretty worthless. It's absolutely nothing of any real note by today's standards. It is a survivor with half a million of obviously very hard miles behind it. Zero intention of looking nice, being politically correct, or fitting in to any car scene norm. It's ancient rusty car, it's fun for me to drive, and it's a car that I openly let people draw on. End of story. The only time I've had to sensor it was when some asshat colored in the roundel as a swastika in black and red, with HEIL! underneath it...

It's a car that most people would've sent to the scrap heap years ago. A during a time when people will take a perfectly good rust free shell and part it out.. All because they didn't sell it at the bazillion california dollars they wanted....

This car is all about the fun. Whether behind the wheel, watching an old couple be giddy as schoolchildren writing some Hank Williams lyrics on it, or at the very same moment watch a young schoolchild try drawing Spongebob on it...

As for the specifics of article. There's a lot of truth in it. Especially when considering stanceworks/stance nation. That's all it's really about. The fame. Which has caused a generation of youngsters to, in my opinion, basically break cars and ruin their characteristics. Which is fine and dandy because it's my opinion, and will end at that. But the moment they hear that, a lot of them instantly turn into elitist pricks that don't understand the concept of differing opinion. In extreme cases, cause physical damage/harm over an image that they've ascribed as godlike. It's pretty mind boggling to me.

And then there's VW vortex... Dear lord...

Anways, /rant.

Oh, and fuck MK III Jettas.

[Andy.B]

I don't think this is really a car culture thing.

Some people in the world are nice, pleasant, friendly people...
and some people are selfish, narrow minded jerks.

Jerks who happen to like cars, but prefer to be a jerk about it.

[Roysneon]

I don't really like going to car meets that much because the ratio of people I care to talk to to people I do want to talk to and cars I want to see is way too far off.

The fags who cry over someone else's style of modification really takes the wind out of my sails energy and emotionally. I think I have negativity fatigue from being an overly negative person for far too long. Really I'm only actually put off on people when they feel the need to talk shit about someone just enjoying their cars. Like the fags who cry about lowered cars and drifting. Those people can fuck directly in an off manner and just not lower or drift their cars and mind their own business.

[613EDRTY]

That was a good read, reminded me of some friends I have in the vw scene.

I'm confused as to what the author considers fame...instagram likes?

The only people getting famous from car builds are ones built right mainly shop cars like catuned. Not your local vw kid with air ride with 44 instagram likes on his last iphone picture....

If said vw kid thinks he's famous....great, let him think that. He'll grow up eventually. We're just as bad as him for calling him out on it.

Ive been to many car meets/shows with different cars, to be honest I haven't made a good friend from any of them. My favorite meets to go to now are classic (1960's and older) car meets. These guys have owned there cars for generations and are genuinely nice and interesting to talk to.