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eurospec e30s aren't worth it.
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I've only seen one US spec E30 here in Denmark, and it's not desireable here in Denmark.#ShenanigansE30 1989 Touring AC Schnitzer S3 replica http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=320784
Ruffian 1987 318is 2 door Hartge project http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=290863
Natalma 1990 Touring AC Schnitzer S3
#GlorianaE28 1986 525i
#AnniePowerE34 525i 3.2 M50 with AC Schnitzer S5 parts
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Originally posted by ThatOneEuroE30 View PostRhd is awesome. Idk how it's a fad here when you rarely see it... And people want euro spec cars for the sake of not having a car like everyone else's. If I had a choice between a 323 or us spec 325 both with euro goodies I'd take the 323 just cause it's a 323. Idk I'm just a euro spec freak. I wanna own every euro spec I find....
I suppose there's still quite a few people who think BMW means "British Motor Works"...
the only car I'd consider importing would be something special - ACS, Alpina, Hartge, M3, 320is. regular E30s? you can do better here, we didn't get the totally stripped out, gutless POS models here in the first place.
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Originally posted by nando View Postno it's not, RHD is retarded in a LHD country, just like LHD would be lame in a RHD country. Especially with german cars that were never designed to be RHD in the first place.
I suppose there's still quite a few people who think BMW means "British Motor Works"...
the only car I'd consider importing would be something special - ACS, Alpina, Hartge, M3, 320is. regular E30s? you can do better here, we didn't get the totally stripped out, gutless POS models here in the first place.
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Right hand corners with a wall on your right is just plain scary, very limited visibility around the bend. Think canyons, hillsides, etc. Scary to commit to a corner when you're tucked way on the inside.
Having just done 100 quick miles in a RHD car, I would never recommend it. Cool for the novelty alone, actually driving it sucks.Drive it hard. Maintain it well.
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Originally posted by nando View Postno it's not, RHD is retarded in a LHD country, just like LHD would be lame in a RHD country. Especially with german cars that were never designed to be RHD in the first place.
Only good thing about Euro E30's over USDM models is the aluminium engine mount arms and no ugly bumpers/trim.
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I read through this entire thread with great interest ... I have an e30 touring that I bought about 8 years ago. It was a German import to the west coast of Canada. I bought it in Vancouver and had it shipped to Southern Ontario.
It seems to differ from all the negative generalities of the first post ... it's rust free (including tail gate, rockers, wheel wells) fully loaded (working a/c, all power windows, locks, mirrors, cargo cover, dog net, ect, ect only options it didn't have were heated seats and cruise) and low miles (it had less than 150,000 km when I bought it)
I think the difference is that I bought it from a person who actually bought it in Europe, used it there, then brought it home with him. It wasn't a broker or flipper or shady used car hack pushing sh1t.
There are great, well equipped and properly maintained Euro cars out there. Like buying any domestic market car, you have to sift through the crap to find the good ones. Best of luck ...lgb240
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Originally posted by Hooffenstein HD View PostExactly this. LHD sucks over here and RHD would suck over there. Converting the E30 to RHD ruined the feel of the brakes with funky ass linkages and threw off the Left:Right weight distribution too. When E30's were new and being raced in our local touring car events, they were indeed LHD.
Only good thing about Euro E30's over USDM models is the aluminium engine mount arms and no ugly bumpers/trim.
The RHD conversion is as bad. Nissan made their cars modular so that the body would take Right hand drive and Wrong hand drive by adding a covewr plate for the un-used side in the 1970s or Honda simply made two center sections - one for RHD, one for LHD. BMW: Nope, we'll make a new dashboard and steering system but lets use linkages for that not so important brake system. Because: Bavaria :D
Much as I love my E30s - I'm not convinced that BMW is always sane - that or they gotr a dose of the British Leylands now and then.'90 BMW E30 318is
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Julien, for the most part, you have a point. At 30yrs, a vehicle deemed in original(and naturally, safe, serviceable, and aesthetically-pleasing)condition can get 'H', or Historic plates, they're known to the Germans as 'Oldtimers'. The tax & insurance are cheaper, but not many Germans don't want to drive them even on a limited basis.
I would say that those who 'find' those e30's on very good or better condition, are in the know. Mostly they trade hands to other enthusiasts long before being put on sale to the 'general public'. Partly b/c the general public would scoff at paying the proper prices for such e30's, and enthusiasts don't really want them to fall into the wrong hands.
You're conclusion is actually a little superficial, go look on Mobile.de, autoscout24.de(there is an english option) and see what 'proper' e30's go for over here, it's getting a bit ridiculous but they're all getting nearer to the 'Oldtimer' status l mentioned before.
BTW, check the iX's too
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Like I said euro e30's are 100% worth it given the fact that you know what your getting into. The point of a euro e30 is to not have your run of the mil e30 but to have something completely different.
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Originally posted by Julien View PostAny car from a northern european country will be rusted.
...an e30 that originated in Germany and was imported to another european country in the 90s when it was a few years old. That is sometimes an indication it was wrecked/rolled back odo
Also where I live, it is common for people to pay the inspection guys off, so many cars will stay on the road until they fall apart for some reason...
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