91 318is vs 325is confussion...whats the diff? (besides eng)

[ELVA164]

all 87's are crap.

Let's keep it civil.

[agent]

all 87's are crap

[Cabriolet]

hahaha

Besides the cool rear tail lights, everything about them seems to be slightly off... including the small fuel tank that wont let a person drive from CA to WA w/o stopping for gas in OR.

[ELVA164]

hahaha

Besides the cool rear tail lights, everything about them seems to be slightly off... including the small fuel tank that wont let a person drive from CA to WA w/o stopping for gas in OR.

You're forgetting the '87-exclusive ECU that delivers FOUR TO FIVE more mpg (in my experience) as well as some extra power.

[reelizmpro]

Dual fuel pumps, small tails, and large airdam but I don't know if Motronic 1.1 is "better" than Motronic 1.3. I used to prefer the early diving board cars, mainly for the larger airdam and small tails despite the diving boards. I did always like how the facelift cars came with a rear apron as part of the body though. The facelift cars grew on me later.

[ELVA164]

I'm not talking 1.1 vs.1.3 as a system, just that the tune in the 3 153 ECUs I've tried is all-around better than the 173s, 351, or 525 I've tried in my car. I don't care much about the stomp test.

[six2midnight]

You have to pay attention to the production dates on the 325iS. Real quick, of the 325i's, only the 87 325iS had a big "cow catcher" air dam. 88-90 had the facelift with the iS front lip spoiler. In 91 they came out with your 318iS which came with the same iS front lip spoiler. There was no 325iS for 91 but you could get a 325i Sport package instead that came with the spoilers.

Not true. I have a 318is (91) and it came with the very small black front spoiler lip thing. Not the bigger IS lip from the 325is

i have the top one on my 91 318is, but i believe the 325is came with the bottom? Or was this an option?

[ELVA164]

It was standard on the 325iS and I'm pretty sure it was standard on the 318iS. Did you buy yours new? They get broken a lot so if you got it used, it was probably replaced with the cheaper option.

[six2midnight]

yep bought it single owner, low miles. Guaranteed never replaced, because stock suspsension makes that clearance oh about 3.5 feet lol. if you google image 91 318is. most stock looking models on the pics that come up show the smaller lip

[word is bond]

Ok - well there's definitely only one "is" lip. That really thin one is just an "i" lip. I was pretty sure all 318is came with an "is" lip, but whatever. I also bought mine low-mileage from the original owner (who was definitely not a car guy or someone to swap lips - he just bought a 318is cos it was the cheapest BMW they sold at the time), and it came with an "is" lip, so I don't know what that means.

Edit: Also - I have a bunch of old magazine scans of 318is reviews that I got from M42club, etc. I just looked them over quickly and all the pictures of the car have an "is" lip on them. Doesn't necessarily mean they came standard, but you know...

[six2midnight]

Very interesting. I've been puzzled by this for a while because I have seen both


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[tak7]

I'm pretty sure my 318is came with the small i lip, can't be certain though.

[reelizmpro]

UhLOL. So it came with a rear 'S' spoiler but no front spoiler? think about it. That doesn't seem logical even for the 318iS where most things were options. That little iS front spoiler gets stolen, broken, or just plain falls off. It's not uncommon for it to be missing. It is an "iS" spoiler, not a 325iS spoiler. All 'S' package cars came with front and rear spoilers.
Good read on the 91 318iS...

http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2014/08/01/hmn_drivable_dreams1.html

"So BMW's E30-generation 318is is a curious little beastie. The model's purpose was seemingly clear: Keep in touch with the marque's strong sports-sedan roots by channeling the original, vaunted and classic-even-in-the-'80s 2002. Stir in the firmer M-Technic suspension (M3-stiff springs, firmer Boge shocks, anti-roll bars measuring 20 mm front and 12 mm rear) and the brand-new 16-valve M42 aluminum-DOHC-headed four into the formal, outgoing, ridiculously popular 3-series architecture, add an air dam and trunk lip to look sporty, and minimize the available options (sunroof, limited-slip, fog lamps, anti-theft equipment and metallic paint were it; not even an automatic to confuse matters). Then sell it for a bargain-basement price: $19,995 to start if you choose the four-door, the first BMW since 1986 to come in under the 20-grand mark, even chock full of standard equipment like a slick-shifting Getrag 240/5 five-speed stick, air conditioning, four-wheel-disc brakes with ABS, power windows, central locking, AM/FM/tape deck with four speakers, and a driver's-side airbag. The two-door seen here stickered for $21,500, plus the cost of the sunroof."

http://www.bimmer-mag.com/issues/113...e#.VKgQLcvTnqA

318is brochure...

Front and rear air dam

[six2midnight]

awesome! ill check out the article. Thanks!

LOL. So it came with a rear 'S' spoiler but no front spoiler? think about it. That doesn't seem logical even for the 318iS where most things were options. That little iS front spoiler gets stolen, broken, or just plain falls off. It's not uncommon for it to be missing. It is an "iS" spoiler, not a 325iS spoiler. All 'S' package cars came with front and rear spoilers.
Good read on the 91 318iS...

http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2014/08/01/hmn_drivable_dreams1.html

"So BMW's E30-generation 318is is a curious little beastie. The model's purpose was seemingly clear: Keep in touch with the marque's strong sports-sedan roots by channeling the original, vaunted and classic-even-in-the-'80s 2002. Stir in the firmer M-Technic suspension (M3-stiff springs, firmer Boge shocks, anti-roll bars measuring 20 mm front and 12 mm rear) and the brand-new 16-valve M42 aluminum-DOHC-headed four into the formal, outgoing, ridiculously popular 3-series architecture, add an air dam and trunk lip to look sporty, and minimize the available options (sunroof, limited-slip, fog lamps, anti-theft equipment and metallic paint were it; not even an automatic to confuse matters). Then sell it for a bargain-basement price: $19,995 to start if you choose the four-door, the first BMW since 1986 to come in under the 20-grand mark, even chock full of standard equipment like a slick-shifting Getrag 240/5 five-speed stick, air conditioning, four-wheel-disc brakes with ABS, power windows, central locking, AM/FM/tape deck with four speakers, and a driver's-side airbag. The two-door seen here stickered for $21,500, plus the cost of the sunroof."




318is brochure...

Front and rear air dam