Real world MPG difference from e10 to 100% gasoline.

[roguetoaster]

And presuming that the list is accurate and not painfully outdated. It's garbage for my area. Prior to the new station opening up down the road for me and offering ethanol free gasoline there was no way to get it anywhere nearby without going to the marina and paying $4/gallon + for marine gasoline.

That's true. Does Gas Buddy have an E-0 info box for stations? Can't say I've seen any stuff about that before through the mobile interface.

[varg]

You can too, presuming one of these stations is near enough at hand. http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=IN

And presuming that the list is accurate and not painfully outdated. It's garbage for my area. Prior to the new station opening up down the road for me and offering ethanol free gasoline there was no way to get it anywhere nearby without going to the marina and paying $4/gallon + for marine gasoline.

[djjerme]

Setting all the MPG and HP..etc aside, the biggest issue with Ethanol fuels is moisture. They attract moisture/water and will go bad quickly. This is why you should never use any ethanol fuel in a lawn mower/race car..etc. anything that sits for extended periods of time. And if you simple must, then add some sort of stabilizer.

In fact, the last lawn mower I purchased, specifically said to use "clean" 100% fuel, any ethanol fuel will void the warranty.

[nando]

You guys are lucky to be able to buy E0.

I can but only in 90 octane. I used to live a mile from a refinery and they had a gas station on my corner where I could get 92 octane E0. it was great. But I think they had to phase even that out, so now the only choice is 90 E0, or 92 E10. I don't think it's worth paying the premium for E0 when it's only 90 octane..

[roguetoaster]

You guys are lucky to be able to buy E0.

You can too, presuming one of these stations is near enough at hand. http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=IN

[dnguyen1963]

it still contains less energy per gallon. you can't get around that - a modern car will still get better mileage on E0.

You guys are lucky to be able to buy E0.

[RedTeam]

I agree with Wschnitz. Ethanol is like a middle ground between gasoline and top fuel. Lower energy density, but also a lower air to fuel ratio. Yes, it will corrode an engine quickly if it's not designed for it, but as long as it's fuel injected with O2 sensors, it should have no problem burning it.

[nando]

it still contains less energy per gallon. you can't get around that - a modern car will still get better mileage on E0.

[Wschnitz]

Yeah I think its ignorant to say Corn fuel doesnt belong in any car engine, Race cars often run E85 or alcohol fuels.

Just old Cars are not meant to run corn.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Glad I'm not delusional on the mileage. I find it interesting that the authorities say a 3% difference. I saw a 9% change.

I'm going to fill up on 100% gasoline a few times in a row and see what it does. Even if I spend the same amount of money per mile, I'll be filling up less often, which is cool with me.

I do like e85 though. If I had it available I could bump the S4 another 100awhp with it.

[M-technik-3]

As we know Corn products do not belong in internal combustion engines. It's lobbyist driven know, heck in the winter you loose more BTU's to the butane they add to the fuel.

I have a E85 capable daily and I tried to use it for a while and I got even worse mileage and it was almost as expensive and to top of it's more expensive now than regular e10 87 octane.

[mrsleeve]

On my FZJ it runs much better on E-0 Vs E-10 and gets a bit better MPG but my driving is not consistent enough to track such things but over all the 1FZ seems to like the 100% stuff much better.

[dnguyen1963]

Ethanol was found to be a better alternative as an anti-knocking agent for the environment when leaded gasoline was still available. The farmer lobbyists then took over when leaded gasoline was banned and the federal incentives were and still are insane.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Is that at highway speed? I've considered getting out of the Miata and into a 318. At 75 mph the Miata mileage plummets.

[TobyB]

The M42s in both E36's get about 2mpg better on non- ethanol, in mixed commuting.
27-28 with, 29-31 without.

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